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Through work I have an Visual Studio Premium with MSDN subscription that I love. However, my biggest disappointment of the last 12 months was discovering that our 2nd from the top level subscription was not enough to get me Sketchflow!

This is, most decidedly, NOT SHINY, and I am borderline distraught! What are my options? Upgrading to an Ultimate subscription for Sketchflow is out of the question. Am I forced, then, to stay with Blend 3 or Purchase Blend 4 seperately?

If this is not a question I should ask here please inform and I'll delete. I just tend to default to SO for all questions that Google can't answer and Google did not answer this one.

+1  A: 

You can upgrade for about $350...which is way cheaper than MSDN

http://www.microsoft.com/expression/products/Upgrade.aspx

SQLMenace
It states at that site, though, that `If you purchased Expression 3 from a store` you can upgrade. Is that referring to any upgrade or the Free Upgrade? I *might* be able to sell my boss on $350...maybe...
Refracted Paladin
+3  A: 

Related to SQLMenace's response -- You can only upgrade for $350 if you previously purchased Blend 3 at retail. If you spent thousands on MSDN Premium and got used to using Sketchflow with Blend 3, you don't have that option.

To the OP... You've been bait-and-switched. Your options are to purchase the full Expression Ultimate 4 ($600 USD at retail) or upgrade your MSDN license to Ultimate (for thousands more). Or stick with Blend 3 and not get the v4 features for working with the latest versions of Silverlight and WPF.

None of those options are great. I'm hoping the people in MSFT DevDiv who'd like to see Sketchflow get adopted have more clout than the marketing genius who thought this tiered approach would drive retail sales and/or MSDN Ultimate upgrades.

Jeff Donnici
Thanks, I think....That is what I feared and is a complete "bush league" maneuver. It's not like we are only on a bizspark subscription. We are a 'non-profit' on the second to highest one.
Refracted Paladin
Talk about a bait-and-switch! I was just getting to love Sketchflow v3 when I found that v4 wasn't part of my MSDN subscription. Argh!
Donovan Woodside
A: 

The Expression team, according to Tim Heuer's blog, may offer an upgrade for $250 to the Premium subscribers.

Bryan O
"may"? I'll have to go check that out and bring a link back but that'd be pretty nice of them.
Refracted Paladin
Not to "Premium subscribers" who are getting MSDN (as the OP mentioned) -- that upgrade is for people who purchased Visual Studio Premium at retail. It doesn't do MSDN Premium subscribers any good. Here's the quote: "Customers who purchased Visual Studio Premium from a retailer will receive an offer to purchase Expression Ultimate at a special price of $249.95 within the next few weeks."
Jeff Donnici
A: 

The upgrade is being offered to Visual Studio 2010 with MSDN Premium subscribers for $249.95. There are similar deals being put into place for MSDN partners and for companies who purchased Visual Studio Premium through volume licensing.

Jon Harris MSFT
@Jon Harris: Any chance you have a link to said offer? That'd be great but I haven't found any such deal, as yet.
Refracted Paladin
I'd also appreciate a link... this is the first I've heard of an upgrade being offered to MSDN Premium subscribers. Even if it were available, it's still a petty move -- we pay thousands a year for the Premium subscription and are gonna get nickel-and-dimed for $250 to get Sketchflow? That's JV.
Jeff Donnici
Yes; this is empty rhetoric without a link to a "buy now" button.
Rob Perkins
+1  A: 

I looked I could get sketchflow with my WebSpark Account, but I only get the Web-Edition of Blend :-/

Tobi
+5  A: 

We think too that is a very bad move from Microsoft. we hope that Microsoft will listen to customers and change this.

Apm
+3  A: 

So do we wait for Microsoft to bow under the pressure of common sense or fork out the cash? Does anyone here have the power to speak to a product head at MS?

Bob
A: 

If your Expression Studio 3 is a retail version (i.e. not from MSDN subscription) you can upgrade to version 4 for absolutely nothing - read the How To Upgrade text on this page. It's not blindingly obvious that you can upgrade for free given the upgrade option available for a fairly large fee. But there you go, it can be free. By the way, I've done it, so I know it works.

Stuart Hallows
@Thanks, unfortunately I am a MSDN subscriber, hence the question title ;) but good to know.
Refracted Paladin