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I know that WIN32 is obviously to denote win32 compilation but what is the need for _win32?

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WIN32 is a name that you could use in your own code and so might clash with Microsoft's usage. _WIN32 is a name that is reserved for the implementor (tn this case MS) because it begins with an underscore and an uppercase letter - you are not allowed to use such names in your own code, so there can be no clash.

anon
When you say 'use' do you mean i could:#define WIN32 12345or:#ifdef WIN32
Adam Naylor
Sure, if you want to. You _can_ also define _WIN32, but the C and C++ Standards say that doing so is illegal.
anon
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I guess they express the same thing, but WIN32 is not defined on this fine list, only _WIN32.

phresnel
+5  A: 

WIN32 is a user-defined flag which may be required by some headers. _WIN32 is automatically defined by the visual C/C++ compiler. Since it begins with an _ followed by a capital character, it is reserved by the implementation (meaning the C/C++ toolchain provider).

I prefer to use (read) _WIN32, seems safer to me.

bltxd
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To elaborate (Neil Butterworth and blue.tuxedo have already given the correct answer):

  • WIN32 is defined by the SDK or the build environment, so it does not use the implementation reserved namespace
  • _WIN32 is defined by the compiler so it uses the underscore to place it in the implementation-reserved namespace

You'll find a similar set of dual defines with nearly identical names and similar uses such as _UNICODE/UNICODE, _DEBUG/DEBUG, or maybe _DLL/DLL (I think that only the UNICODE ones get much of any use in their different versions). Though sometimes in these cases (like _UNICODE), instead of the underscore version being defined by the compiler, they are used to control what the CRT headers do:

  • _UNICODE tells the CRT headers that CRT names which can be either Unicode or ANSI (such as _tcslen() should map to the wide character variant (wcslen())
  • UNICODE does something similar for the SDK (maps Win32 APIs to their "W" variants)

Essentially the versions with the underscore are controlled by or used by the compiler team, the versions without the underscore are controlled/used by teams outside of the compiler. Of course, there's probably going to be a lot overlap due to compatibility with past versions and just general mistakes by one team or the other.

I find it confusing as hell - and find that they are used nearly interchangeably in user code (usually, when you see one defined, you'll see the other defined in the same place, because if you need one you need the other). Personally, I think that you should use the versions without the underscore (unless you're writing the compiler's runtime) and make sure they both get defined (whether via hearers or compiler switches as appropriate) when you're defining one.


Note that the SDK will define _WIN32 when building for the Mac because the compiler doesn't, kind of overstepping it's bounds. I'm not sure what projects use a Win32 API an a compiler targeting the Mac - maybe some version of Office for the Max or something.

Michael Burr