MesureOverride to return more than the availableSize?

Question

I was looking at FrameworkElement.MesureOverride on MSDN, trying to understand the mechanism behind the layout engine. I stumbled upon this interesting note :

During this process, child elements might return a larger DesiredSize size than the initial availableSize to indicate that the child element wants more space.

Ok. I had reflector near so I looked into MesureCore, which call MesureOverride and I noticed that, from what I could understand, the return value of MesureOverride is always capped between 0 and the availableSize. So what's up with that?

Answer 1

A child element can ask for more space. Whether that is honored by the parent element is up to the parent element.

MeasureCore only calls MeasureOverride on this. You're only getting a very small part of the story. The Layout System starts with calling Measure on the topmost Panel in the tree of elements, which calls MeasureCore on this. However, MeasureCore in FrameworkElement calls MeasureOverride in a couple of places.

Where are you seeing it cap between 0 and availableSize?

Edit: Re: "well, the last line of MeasureCore..."

Like I said, you're looking at a small part of all that goes on.

1. All controls have 1 very common way to request more space than they actually need: Margin. You'd have to write a custom control to request even more space than that.
2. The constraints you see in MeasureCore, from what I can tell, have to do with the MinWidth/MinHeight and MaxWidth/MaxHeight limits, if they are set.

So yeah, a control -- like the documentation says -- can request more space than is needed. None of the default controls seem to do this aside from their Margins, and containers such as panels don't have to respect it. Most circumstances don't take advantage of what you read in the documentation because in most circumstances, it wouldn't make sense from either the perspective of the parent of the child.

If you created a UserControl, got rid of the Width and Height values in the XAML and override MeasureOverride to return an arbitrary Size, then place an instance of it in a Canvas, you would see it display at the Size you returned.

This feature of the layout system may be of use if you are creating custom panels and custom controls or user controls, but otherwise probably not. But it is there. The documentation is correct.