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I typed this into Clojure REPL (using the enclojure Netbeans plugin):

user=> "hello, world"
"hello, world"
nil

What's the nil about?

+1  A: 

i think it's the return value of your expression. It's the case in ruby with puts method.

Eimantas
The expression is a string literal, and the return value is the string.
Christian Vest Hansen
+2  A: 

Can't reproduce...

It doesn't do that for me on Clojure 1.0.0-

$ java -cp clo*.jar clojure.lang.Repl
Clojure 1.0.0-
user=> "hello, world"
"hello, world"
user=>
DigitalRoss
+7  A: 

Every function or macro call returns a value in Clojure, even things like if statements or looping constructs or toplevel function definitions or print statements, which in other languages are "statements". There's no statement/expression dichotomy in Lisps; everything is an expression.

So println and friends print to standard-output as a side-effect and return nil, as do most functions which don't have anything useful to return.

But typing a literal string at the REPL should return the string itself, as in digitalross' post.

user> (println "hello world")
hello world
nil
user> "hello world"
"hello world"
user>

In the first case, the hello world line is what was printed to standard-output by println. nil is the returned value of println. In the second case, "hello world" is the returned value of "hello world" since a string evaluates to itself. Nothing is printed to standard-output in this case.

(SLIME and some other REPL interfaces will helpfully color standard-output (the hello world line above) differently from the returned value of what you typed at the REPL (nil above), since it might be confusing otherwise.)

This is what you should see at a REPL. What you posted must be an artifact of Enclojure.

Brian Carper
Very helpful. Thank you. I wonder if there's a problem with my installation of enclojure or whether this is, as you say, an expected artifact of enclojure. I also wonder what other "artifacts" I may encounter if I continue to use enclojure.
uzo
+1  A: 

There are some recent bugs related to interpreting the CRLF end of line sequence as two different expressions under windows. The return value of a string in clojure should be the string its self.

Arthur Ulfeldt