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I'm running into a weird issue that I'm struggling to figure out what's causing the page to break. I have an internal website that's still under development (thus no link to the page) that works great in Firefox and Internet Explorer 8 in IE 7 Standards mode. But when I force it to IE 8 Standards mode the page will only display the title text in the browser tab and an otherwise completely blank page. It seems so broken that the blank page doesn't even have a context menu.

The page generally looks like this:

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd"&gt;
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"&gt;
    <head>
        <meta content="IE=8" http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" />
        <title>Page Title</title>
        <link rel="shortcut icon" href="/Images/favicon.ico" type="image/x-icon" />
        <link href="/Style/main.less" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />
    </head>
<body>
    <div id="header">
        <span id="logindisplay">[ <a href="/Account/LogOn">Log On</a> ]</span> 
    </div>
    <div class="colmask threecol">
        <div class="colmid">
            <div class="colleft">
                <div class="col1">
                    <div id="title">
                        <h1>APP TITLE</h1>
                    </div>
                    <div class="logo">
                        <img alt="Application" src="/Images/info.png" title="Application" />
                    </div>
                    <div>
                        <div id="company">Offered by: <span>Company Name</span>
                        </div>
                        <div id="version">Version: 0.0.0.0</div>
                    </div>
                </div>
                <div class="col2">
                    <div id="menucontainer">
                        <ul id="menu">
                            <li>
                                <a href="/Module1" class="ciApp">
                                    <img alt="module" height="84px" src="/Images/Module1.png" title="module" />
                                    <span>Module</span>
                                </a>
                            </li>
                        </ul>
                    </div>
                </div>
                <div class="col3">
                    <div id="newsfeed">
                        <span class="welcomemessage">Welcome to <b>Application</b>
                        </span>
                        <div>
                            <span class="newsLabel">New Features</span>
                            <div class="newFeatures">
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                            </div>
                        </div>
                    </div>
                </div>
            </div>
        </div>
    </div>
    <div id="footer">
    </div>
</body>
</html>

You may notice the .less extension for the stylesheet. This is an ASP.NET MVC application and I'm making use of DotLess. I have the HttpHandler hooked up for it in the web.config. Of course there's some additional info on the page, but (in theory) it shouldn't be causing this issue. I've run the CSS and the HTML through the W3C validators and both have come back as completely valid. I'm trying the arduous task of removing/re-adding elements until it displays, but any insight into what could cause this would help.

EDIT: it appears to be something related to the DotLess stylesheet. The resulting CSS is valid according to the W3C CSS validator.

EDIT 2: Digging further, and making use of IE's Developer Tools to control the styles, it appears that IE is reading a single statement twice even though it only occurs once in the output. Here's the output of the Less file:

a, abbr, acronym, address, applet, b, big, caption, center, cite, code, dd, dfn, div, dl, dt, em, fieldset, font, form, html, i, iframe, img, kbd, label, legend, li, object, pre, s, samp, small, span, strike, strong, sub, sup, tbody, td, tfoot, th, thead, tr, tt, u, var {
  margin: 0;
  padding: 0;
  border: 0;
  outline: 0;
  font-size: 100%;
  vertical-align: baseline;
  background: transparent;
}
blockquote, q {
  margin: 0;
  padding: 0;
  border: 0;
  outline: 0;
  font-size: 100%;
  vertical-align: baseline;
  background: transparent;
  quotes: none;
}
body {
  margin: 0;
  padding: 0;
  border: 0;
  outline: 0;
  font-size: 100%;
  vertical-align: baseline;
  line-height: 1;
  width: 100%;
  background: #efebde;
  min-width: 600px;
}
del {
  margin: 0;
  padding: 0;
  border: 0;
  outline: 0;
  font-size: 100%;
  vertical-align: baseline;
  background: transparent;
  text-decoration: line-through;
}
h1 {
  border: 0;
  outline: 0;
  vertical-align: baseline;
  background: transparent;
  font-size: 2em;
  margin: .8em 0 .2em 0;
  padding: 0;
}
h2 {
  border: 0;
  outline: 0;
  vertical-align: baseline;
  background: transparent;
  font-size: 1.8em;
  margin: .8em 0 .2em 0;
  padding: 0;
}
h3 {
  border: 0;
  outline: 0;
  vertical-align: baseline;
  background: transparent;
  font-size: 1.6em;
  margin: .8em 0 .2em 0;
  padding: 0;
}
h4 {
  margin: 0;
  padding: 0;
  border: 0;
  outline: 0;
  vertical-align: baseline;
  background: transparent;
  font-size: 1.4em;
}
h5 {
  margin: 0;
  padding: 0;
  border: 0;
  outline: 0;
  vertical-align: baseline;
  background: transparent;
  font-size: 1.2em;
}
h6 {
  margin: 0;
  padding: 0;
  border: 0;
  outline: 0;
  vertical-align: baseline;
  background: transparent;
  font-size: 1em;
}
ins {
  margin: 0;
  padding: 0;
  border: 0;
  outline: 0;
  font-size: 100%;
  vertical-align: baseline;
  background: transparent;
  text-decoration: none;
}
ol, ul {
  margin: 0;
  padding: 0;
  border: 0;
  outline: 0;
  font-size: 100%;
  vertical-align: baseline;
  background: transparent;
  list-style: none;
}
p {
  border: 0;
  outline: 0;
  font-size: 100%;
  vertical-align: baseline;
  background: transparent;
  margin: .4em 0 .8em 0;
  padding: 0;
}
table {
  margin: 0;
  padding: 0;
  border: 0;
  outline: 0;
  font-size: 100%;
  vertical-align: baseline;
  background: transparent;
  border-collapse: collapse;
  border-spacing: 0;
}
blockquote:before, blockquote:after, q:before, q:after { content: none; }
:focus { outline: 0; }
.bold { font-weight: bold; }
.systemFont { font-family: Arial; }
.labelled { font-style: italic; }
.groovedBorder {
  border-color: #adaa9c;
  border-style: groove;
  border-width: medium;
}
#header, #footer {
  clear: both;
  float: left;
  width: 100%;
}
#header p, #header h1, #header h2 {
  padding: .4em 15px 0 15px;
  margin: 0;
}
#header ul {
  clear: left;
  float: left;
  width: 100%;
  list-style: none;
  margin: 10px 0 0 0;
  padding: 0;
}
#header ul li {
  display: inline;
  list-style: none;
  margin: 0;
  padding: 0;
}
#header ul li a {
  background: #eeeeee;
  display: block;
  float: left;
  left: 15px;
  line-height: 1.3em;
  margin: 0 0 0 1px;
  padding: 3px 10px;
  position: relative;
  text-align: center;
  text-decoration: none;
}
#header ul li a span { display: block; }
#header ul li a:hover { background: #336699; }
#header ul li a.active, #header ul li a.active:hover {
  background: black;
  font-weight: bold;
}
#header #logindisplay {
  float: right;
  padding-top: .5em;
  padding-bottom: .5em;
  padding-right: 1em;
  padding-left: 1em;
}
#title h1 {
  font-family: Arial;
  font-style: italic;
  font-size: 175%;
  text-align: center;
  margin-top: 1%;
}
.col1 {
  font-family: Arial;
  border-color: #adaa9c;
  border-style: groove;
  border-width: medium;
  min-height: 350px;
  float: left;
  overflow: hidden;
  position: relative;
  padding-top: 0;
  padding-bottom: 1em;
  padding-left: 0;
  padding-right: 0;
}
.col1 div.logo { text-align: center; }
.col3 {
  font-family: Arial;
  border-color: #adaa9c;
  border-style: groove;
  border-width: medium;
  float: left;
  overflow: hidden;
  position: relative;
}
#layoutdims {
  clear: both;
  background: #eeeeee;
  margin: 0;
  padding: 6px 15px !important;
  text-align: right;
}
#company {
  padding-left: 10px;
  padding-top: 10px;
  margin: 0;
}
#company span {
  display: block;
  padding-left: 1em;
}
#version {
  padding-right: 1em;
  padding-top: 1em;
  text-align: center;
}
#menu li {
  padding: 6px;
  border-color: #adaa9c;
  border-style: groove;
  border-width: medium;
  min-width: 108px;
}
#menu li a.ciApp {
  text-decoration: none;
  font-size: 112.5%;
  font-weight: bold;
  font-family: Arial;
  color: black;
}
#menu li a.ciApp span { vertical-align: top; }
.welcomemessage { font-size: 60.95%; }

.newFeatures {
  overflow-y: scroll;
  max-height: 300px;
}

#newsfeed div .newsLabel {
  color: red;
  font-size: 60.95%;
  font-style: italic;
}

/**************************************************************************************
This statement appears twice in Developer Tools.  Disabling one disables both.  Disabling it also causes the page to render.  Turning it on and the page disappears again
**************************************************************************************/
#newsfeed div .newFeatures {
  margin-left: 1em;
  margin-right: 1em;
  font-size: 60.95%;
}
/**************************************************************************************
**************************************************************************************/


.colmask {
  clear: both;
  float: left;
  position: relative;
  overflow: hidden;
  width: 100%;
}
.colright, .colmid, .colleft {
  float: left;
  position: relative;
  width: 100%;
}
.col2 {
  float: left;
  overflow: hidden;
  position: relative;
  padding-top: 0;
  padding-bottom: 1em;
  padding-left: 0;
  padding-right: 0;
}
.threecol .colmid { right: 33%; }
.threecol .colleft { right: 34%; }
.threecol .col1 {
  width: 33%;
  left: 100%;
}
.threecol .col2 {
  width: 32%;
  left: 34%;
}
.threecol .col3 {
  width: 32%;
  left: 68.5%;
}

Notice the #newsfeed div .newFeatures identifier near the end. I don't know what's causing that as it's only appearing once in the output stream. Here's an image of it too: CSS identifier duplication in Developer Tools

EDIT 3: It appears that even though it duplicates that particular selector, if I change the font-size to a whole number like 61% instead of the current 60.95% (that specific to defaultly match the existing desktop app as closely as possible) it works fine. I even moved the font-size (still as 60.95%) to a more general selector (just the .newFeature one a few lines up) and it still causes the page to break. Still not sure why that is. I've added the full HTML to see what's going on.

+1  A: 

Keep in mind, we have NO way of knowing without seeing any code or anything, so this is basically guesswork. If you can get a sample up which shows the problem, that would be a big help.

Have you tried using the Developer Tools to see and manipulate the structure of the page? That's the first place to start when you get weird rendering issues for no apparent reason.

EDIT: Okay, this is really a tough one. Here's what I've been able to come up with.

For starters, I don't see the multiple defintion issue here, even though I copied all of that CSS into a file - so I can't really tell you what's going on there.

Secondly, it would appear that the problem is not specifically the 60.95% - it does the same if you use 60%, or 60.XX%. 61% works, 60.99 doesn't, 59.99% works, 60% doesn't.

However, it DOES render the page if I remove overflow-y: scroll. In fact, it works if I remove ANY of the definitions on .newFeatures or #newsfeed div .newFeatures. I can also change them to something else, and it works - except for max-height. Just changing one of the two margins on #newsfeed div .newFeatures to 0.999em makes the page render again. I propose doing that as a temporary workaround - or moving to 61% font-size, since there's very little difference.

It's really hard to tell what's going on here, but it looks like there's a bug in IE which causes some internal calculation to go horribly wrong in this particular scenario - and somehow the browser doesn't recover from it.

I think this is definitely something the IE team would like to know about now, so there's a chance they can fix it for IE9. This is a pretty isolated case, and probably not something currently covered by their testing. I'm not sure what the best way of contacting them are - there are some MSFTs on here, including Eric Law, who might know of a better option than opening a support case.

Michael Madsen
I know it's primarily guesswork, but it's hard to put together a sample that's not specific to this project (proprietary page and all that). Using the Developer Tools I narrowed down what in the CSS is causing the error. See my Edit 2 information.
Agent_9191
@Agent_9191: Just making sure you remember it. It happens far too often that people ask "why does this happen" without showing a single line of code.
Michael Madsen
I always try to provide the code that appears to be the most relevant to the problem initially. And after further diagnosis I'll add more where it's needed. I did post this question in the IE general discussion newsgroup (as IE's connect.microsoft.com page says to do) pointing back to this question, so hopefully it will be looked into.
Agent_9191