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I didn't attend PDC 2008, but I heard some news that C# 4.0 is announced to support Generic covariance and contra-variance. That is, List<string> can be assigned to List<object>. How could that be?

In Jon Skeet's book C# in Depth, it is explained why C# generics doesn't support covariance and contra-variance. It is mainly for writing secure code. Now, C# 4.0 changed to support them. Would it bring chaos?

Anybody know the details about C# 4.0 can give some explanation?

+7  A: 

Here is a good article that covers the upcoming covariance and contra-variance implementations on delegates and interfaces in C# 4.0:

LINQ Farm: Covariance and Contravariance in C# 4.0

CMS
+44  A: 

Variance will only be supported in a safe way - in fact, using the abilities that the CLR already has. So the examples I give in the book of trying to use a List<Banana> as a List<Fruit> (or whatever it was) still won't work - but a few other scenarios will.

Firstly, it will only be supported for interfaces and delegates.

Secondly, it requires the author of the interface/delegate to decorate the type parameters as in (for contravariance) or out (for covariance). The most obvious example is IEnumerable<T> which only ever lets you take values "out" of it - it doesn't let you add new ones. That will become IEnumerable<out T>. That doesn't hurt type safety at all, but lets you return an IEnumerable<string> from a method declared to return IEnumerable<object> for instance.

Contravariance is harder to give concrete examples for using interfaces, but it's easy with a delegate. Consider Action<T> - that just represents a method which takes a T parameter. It would be nice to be able to convert seamlessly use an Action<object> as an Action<string> - any method which takes an object parameter is going to be fine when it's presented with a string instead. Of course, C# 2 already has covariance and contravariance of delegates to some extent, but via an actual conversion from one delegate type to another (creating a new instance) - see P141-144 for examples. C# 4 will make this more generic, and (I believe) will avoid creating a new instance for the conversion. (It'll be a reference conversion instead.)

Hope this clears it up a bit - please let me know if it doesn't make sense!

Jon Skeet
So, does it mean that if the class is declared as "List<out T>" then it should NOT have a member function like "void Add(T obj)"? The C# 4.0 compiler will report error on that, right?
Morgan Cheng
Morgan: That's certainly my understanding, yes.
Jon Skeet
@Jon - yet again one of your answers here on SO has immediately helped me improve some code. Thank you!
Mark
+2  A: 

Anders Noråse explains in C# 4.0 - Covariance and contra-variance the concept and shows, that it's already supported today in IL since .NET 2.0.

Thomas Freudenberg
broken link as of 2009-11-12 20:26:45 GMT
Chris Shouts
I fixed the link.
Thomas Freudenberg
+1  A: 

Not that Jon hasn't already covered it, but here are some links to blogs and videos from Eric Lippert. He does a nice job of explaining it with examples.

http://blogs.msdn.com/ericlippert/archive/tags/Covariance+and+Contravariance/default.aspx

The videos:

http://blogs.msdn.com/ericlippert/archive/2009/10/26/some-new-videos.aspx

Kevin