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I've been using C/C++ and Python pretty seriously, but I now I see that a lot of new programming books use Java or C# as examples.

I don't think I'll use Java or C# for the time being, but I guess I have to study one of the languages (or both of them) in order to read and understand the books.

  • How similar Java and C#? If I learn Java, is learning C# almost free? Or vice versa?
  • If I have to choose only one of the two languages, which would be better? Which has wider coverage in terms of programming language?
+1  A: 

Not a 1:1 mapping since C# 1.0. C# has added lots of stuff (LINQ, closures,etc.) that have no analog in Java.

duffymo
Actually Java 7 has closures
BlueRaja - Danny Pflughoeft
@BlueRaja: Finally... :)
Lucas Jones
@BlueRaja: You mean Java 7 *will have* closures when it is finally released, which apparently will not be for the better part of a year.
Dave Kirby
+9  A: 

You are asking several questions at once. Let me address them separately:


How similar Java and C#?

Both C# and Java drew from the C/C++ (and Objective C, and others) to define their syntax. And bot of them are compiled to an intermediate language.

The similarities end there.

On the syntax level, Java was influenced by Smalltalk, while C# tried to stay closer to C/C++ (eg: compare Java's inherits and implements with C#'s : notation) and took a vague inspiration from VB on those concepts that weren't mappable to C/C++ (example: property syntax).

On the features level, C# 1 was definitely close to Java. Among the few differences they had, I'd highlight C#'s support for "unsafe" code (including pointers) and for delegates; and Java's controversial throws. This makes sense, since one of the goals of C# was to become an alternative to Java.

Many language features differ heavily on implementation details. For example, enums are very C'ish on C#, but are full objects in Java; or generics are implemented on the IL-level in C#, but in Java are dealt with via type erasure (neither is really close to C++'s templates besides syntax).

On the API level, they are worlds apart. C# relies on the .Net Framework, which was built on Microsoft's experience with the Visual Studio family of products (and thus is significantly Windows-oriented), while Java's Class Library was built, IIRC, from scratch, and heavily evolved over time (on these Swing days, does anyone remember AWT? I do).

Finally, it's worth mentioning that each of the languages has its own idioms, and its own community of supporters behind it.


If I learn Java, is learning C# almost free? Or vice versa?

Neither. The key similarity is the basic syntax (semicolons, curly braces, array indexing, case-sensitiveness, etc), and you already have that from C/C++.

(DISCLAIMER: this fragment is entirely biased and subjective) On my case, I learned Java back in summer 2000; and grew as hateful towards it that I wouldn't touch it except when I was required to turn it college projects as .class files. I tried C# on 2006, and have been quite happy with it: it's far from perfect, but it quite suits my needs and style. I must admit, however, that Java was quite young on those early days, and it has improved significantly: if I were learning it from zero nowadays, I wouldn't hate it so much (but I don't think I'd prefer it over C#).


If I have to choose only one of the two languages, which would be better?

Short answer: flip a coin. Long answer: it depends on your coding style and on what aspects of the language you value most. My best advise is to start by trying to learn both, until you feel that one of the languages pulls you more strongly than the other.

Alternatively, you can take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Java_and_C_Sharp.


Which has wider coverage in terms of programming language?

If you mean language built-in features, I'd say C# wins for a narrow margin. Most of the features that C# has and Java lacks are syntax sugar (although they together make a significant difference on the learning curve and on the way the language is used). I value really high C#'s operator overload and extension methods. Also, LINQ is quite funny, especially when nested, but I'm more fond of classic looping.

Hope this helps.

herenvardo
+1  A: 

The libraries are very different, and the approach to documentation is very different. I find the C# approach to easier.

To illustrate what I mean, in either language some object that you want to deal with may be implemented by inheriting from "object" to "generic object" to "specific object." In Java, if you want to find out about a property of the "generic object" you have to go to the doc for that, whereas in C# documentation, all the properties are listed for the "specific object."

At least that's the way it seemed to me back a few years ago when I did some Java.

SeaDrive
A: 

If you want a brutally subjective answer.

I have just finished a degree in Computer Science in England, I chose a university that taught C# as opposed to Java.........reason being, so I could easily walk straight into a highly paid job as a software developer with a company that simply only wants people who know the "new" technologies.

These are companies such as Investment Banks, tech startups, IT Consulting firms.

So if you want to pick one to learn......

Think about the end goal.....if it's cash and modern knowledge...follow C#.

....and if it's anything else, follow C#

P.S. Java is terrible - I had to say it.

Goober