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I'd like to know why most Banks or Financial companies prefer Oracle than other RDBMS for their core systems (the absolutely minimum features that a Bank must support). I found a few answers that didn't satisfy me. For example: Oracle has more features. But features for what? Can't you implement that in application level if you were not using Oracle?

Could someone please describe a bit more technical but still on high-level overview of what the bank needs and how Oracle would solve it and the others can't or don't have the features yet?

Minor question: would you use ORM if you have to develop a banking solution?

I came from the web-app (web 2.0) crowd who normally hear news about MySQL, PostgreSQL or even key-value/column-oriented storage solution. I have almost zero knowledge on how Banks or Financial companies operates from technical perspective.

Thank you, Ed

+7  A: 

Oracle has a reputation for better reliability and security. Historically, it has outperformed and out-scaled any other SQL engine. This is changing, but the perception is still there. In many markets, Oracle is still perceived as the gold standard. Financial services seems to be one of them.

Tom Cabanski
Nice, succinct answer.
David Stratton
Also, when you pay oracle thousands of dollars in licensing fees, you have someone to call when things stop working.
Frank Farmer
Same is true of all the major vendors. Microsoft has premium support offerings. You can also buy premium support for MySQL. More accurately, when you have invested $1 million+ for a large Oracle DB infrastructure and have built a team with the necessary expertise, as many financial institutions have, you have little incentive to throw it away as long as it keeps working. Remember how long these guys stuck with mainframe environments.
Tom Cabanski
+5  A: 

Corporate Culture... History... Bias...

AND Oracle is a very good DB, but so are plenty of others these days.

However, if the financial institution has been around forever, and they've used Oracle forever (since it WAS once in a class of its own), there's an investment there.

Also, since Oracle once dominated this market, people with experience in these industries are already more likely to be familiar with it and comfortable with it, so when building a new system it's a "comfortable" choice.

David Stratton
Good answer. Oracle is basically what Kleenex is to tissue paper, the gold standard.
StarShip3000
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PostgreSQL is also used, Caixa (a large bank in Brazil) uses it: PostgreSQL in Mission-Critical Financial Systems

Frank Heikens
Brazil has a federal government mandate to use open source, and Caixa is (or used to be) a government owned bank so the choice may not have been technical in nature.
Otávio Décio
You're right, but it still works great. Works better than the government itself... A company like NTT also uses PostgreSQL, they can't afford a screw up, it's their backbone.
Frank Heikens
Both of you shown an interesting fact for me who sometime happen to not know the industry outside Canada or USA. Thank you so much guys.
edwin.nathaniel
@Frank - not a really high standard I'm afraid :) Anyway, I went through the whole "market reserve" of the 80's and 90's where no imports were allowed for "existing similar products" and the number of knock-offs of american products was mindboggling, from DOS to dBase to Wordstar. Talk about being retrograde...
Otávio Décio
+2  A: 

Which ever answer you receive, will most likely be biast based on the OP's personal comfort with the RDBMS used.

Any corporate entity has more measures in paperwork, (From 1Tc to R2D2) to fill out, and get approved when changing working solutions than buying a house.

So if the environment you are talking about was using Ms Access, you would find it hard to convince them to change.

Given all that, there was a time (not to distant past/even still today) where these kind of decisions was not made by developers, but by the costing company.

Another joke. Given a programmers age, Have you ever heard of COBOL

astander
Hey, COBOL is a great language. There is even a COBOL for .NET! (http://www.netcobol.com/)
Tom Cabanski
You might be surprised... I'm not even 30 years old yet but I've coded in Fortran briefly.
edwin.nathaniel
Geez, there's a Fortran for.NET too. (http://www.mpassociates.gr/software/distrib/science/lahey/lfnet.html).
Tom Cabanski
+1  A: 

Oracle is also used by for instance salesforce and amazon (http://highscalability.com/amazon-architecture) and flight reservation (http://www.dbms2.com/2010/04/21/ita-software-needlebase-google/). And Oracle can run on multiple operating systems so you are less locked than MS SQL.

A feature like flashback (http://www.oracle.com/technology/deploy/availability/htdocs/Flashback_Overview.htm) is very hard to implement in the client. Hash joins, analytical queries and materialized views are not stuff the client can do if you don't want to retrieve all the data from the database because that takes too much time. I've understood that mysql can't do a hash join. Oracle can also automatically parrallelize long running queries.

There is also support for changing the database schema without going offline.

Oracle has also features for encryption and data security (even on row level).

I don't think that financial companies are going to use non-acid nosql systems. Maybe for logging but not for the "important" stuff. Maybe some use Berkeley DB because Berkeley DB has transactions.

TTT
Yes, I know for sure they're not going to go to NoSQL route. They probably will for logging and a few analytical/data mining/warehouse tasks. But that would only happen in the far future and will still use RDBMS at its core.
edwin.nathaniel