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Hey Everyone,

I am currently building a registration page where if the user leaves, I want to pop up a CSS box asking him if he is sure or not. I can accomplish this feat using confirm boxes, but the client says that they are too ugly. I've tried using unload and beforeunload, but both cannot stop the page from being redirected. Using those to events, I return false, so maybe there's a way to cancel other than returning false?

Another solution that I've had was redirecting them to another page that has my popup, but the problem with that is that if they do want to leave the page, and it wasn't a mistake, they lose the page they were originally trying to go to. If I was a user, that would irritate me.

The last solution was real popup window. The only thing I don't like about that is that the main winow will have their destination page while the pop will have my page. In my opinion it looks disjoint. On top of that, I'd be worried about popup blockers.

Just to add to everyones comments. I understand that it is irritating to prevent users from exiting the page, and in my opinion it should not be done. Right now I am using a confirm box at this point. What happens is that it's not actually "preventing" the user from leaving, what the client actually wants to do is make a suggestion if the user is having doubts about registering. If the user is halfway through the registraiton process and leaves for some reason, the client wants to offer the user a free coupon to a seminar (this client is selling seminars) to hopefully persuade the user to register. The client is under the impression that since the user is already on the form, he is thinking of registering, and therefore maybe a seminar of what he is registering for would be the final push to get the user to register. Ideally I don't have to prevent the user from leaving, what would be just as good, and in my opinion better is if I can pause the unload process. Maybe a sleep command? I don't really have to keep the user on the page because either way they will be leaving to go to a different page.

Also, as people have stated, this is a terriable title, so if someone knows a better one, I'd really appreciate it if they could change the title to something no so spammer inviting.

+3  A: 

You really do not want a browser to prevent you from leaving a page / site. So this should not be possible.

GvS
Exactly. All of those methods that were asked about (onUnload and onBeforeUnload) don't work precisely because it annoys users and browser makers realize that.
Brendan Long
In general, your answer was the best eventhough it's not what I was looking for. I had a feeling that what I wanted was not possible, which kind of sucks, so I've told the client of my findings, and we will decide on what to do next. It's a shame that we can't skin a popup box.
JohnathanKong
Think about what could happen if everybody (with bad intentions) could do what your client wants. Using normal popups people are already lured into installing malware. With skinning you could easily get more "clients" for bad virus scanners.
GvS
+22  A: 

As soon as I saw the words "prevent the user" I started to wail in agony. Never prevent the user, only help them.

If they see your registration page and run off, that's their choice. Pop up a javascript confirm box if they've already filled in some data (because they might be navigating away accidentally) but leave it at that. If they haven't touched the form, leave them alone - they don't want to fill in your form.

Look at other methods of engaging users. If your form is huge and scary, break it into simple manageable chunks or better yet, simplify things so much that the user only gives you data when you need it. For example, you might not need their address until you want to post something to them.

By breaking it into multiple parts you can hook them with a simple form and once they've invested that time, they'll be more likely to continue the process.

But don't harass users. If they don't want to register, pestering them with pop-ups and jaavscript dialogues will just chase them off the site completely.

With that in mind, assuming you're just trying to stop people half-filling-in forms, there are a couple of options to genuinely help people:

  1. Detect if the form has changed and ask them a simple confirm() message.

    This is all you can do. A CSS "pop-in" just won't work because you can't control* the window location in the unload event.

    *You can put an event listener on all your page's links to fire off something to check the form, but this only helps if the user clicks on one of those links. It won't help if, for example, the user clicks back or closes the window. You could do both CSS and javascript but you end up with a bit of a mess.

  2. Persist the state of the form behind the scenes.

    An extension to #1. Instead of squabbling with the user, let them go where they want but save the content of the form either to session or cookie (if it'll fit) and put something on the page (like SO's orange prompt bars at the top of the page) that reminds them that they've started filling in a form and gives them a link back to the form.

    When they click that link, you load the data out of the cookie (or session) back into the form and let them carry on. This has the clear benefit of letting them do what they like on your site and keeps the data safe.. ish.

    If they don't come back and their cookie/session expire, that's their fault. You can only lead a horse to water. It's not your job to force it to drink.

Oli
Switch "registration site" to "registration page", just for a moment, what if that's what the OP meant? Then this is a perfectly legitimate question, just like SO prompting you before leaving a page once you started entering an answer... To be clear if your *assumptions* are correct, I 100% agree, but I don't agree that your assumptions here are absolute.
Nick Craver
My answer is generic to all forms. Only interfere if the user has started inputting data and even then, it has to be a very simple, unobtrusive "Did you really mean to do that?"-style question... Just as SO does. If the entire site is behind a registration wall, exactly the same applies. Don't bug them unless they've put data into a registration form.
Oli
@Oli - If you read the question, that's exactly what he's trying to do...
Nick Craver
Except that SO doesn't seem to keep me from using my Back button, or any other obnoxious crap like that. The phrasing of the question seems to be what people are jumping all over the OP about -- most of us have seen enough spammy "are you sure? really sure? you know, we have this really good deal... please stay? i'll be your best friend..." crap that we reflexively smack people who sound like they want to create more of it.
cHao
How am I saying anything different to you? There is only one valid time to prompt people: there's a form that they've used but not submitted (and data would be lost). Every other time, interfering is annoying and wrong. The question doesn't specify previous behaviour so I am. I'll admit I don't go into viable methods of doing this correctly. I'll edit.
Oli
Thing is, being able to have code say "no, don't leave the page yet" has historically led to abuse. That's part of why it's so hard to do now. Even if you have what could be considered a valid reason, there's no decent way of doing it that wouldn't already have been abused to hell and back by spammers, and eventually disabled for just that reason. And any way someone could tell you here could wind up abused to the same end (and certainly would, if by someone else). Especially considering the phrasing of the title, which is just begging to be found by spammers.
cHao
+1, especially for option #2. IMO, option #2 is the only acceptable solution that would do what the client is trying to accomplish.
Christopher Parker
+4  A: 

If you want to trap links, you could rewrite the links in the page to go to a "you really want to leave?" javascript function, passing the destination URL as an argument.

If you wanna keep users from using their "Back" button, or keep them from putting another URL in the address bar, stop. Stop now. (1) Browsers were made to prevent exactly that kind of obnoxious behavior, and (2) Even if they allowed it, see the last two words of (1). It's freaking rude. Your site is not that special, no matter how cool you think it is.

cHao
I was thinking about trapping links so I can pass the link to the other page if they don't want the free coupon. That would simulate what I want, but is there a way to get what page they were trying to go to at the time of redirect with javascript?
JohnathanKong
<voodoo> If you rewrite the hrefs for all the links on the page from 'http://some.site' to 'javascript:verify_exit("http://some.site")', then the verify_exit function (which you'd make) knows what URL the user was going to. Of course, you'll want to rewrite the links using jQuery or something like that, so your your links don't all break if someone doesn't have javascript. <voodoo>
cHao
Would that help if they were trying to go to a page outside of the site? Like if they typed in a url instead of clicking on a different link.
JohnathanKong
No...it'd only affect links in your page. But it, plus the onbeforeunload stuff, would cover all cases while only showing the "ugly" JS confirmation box when people try to navigate away by using the Back button or typing in a new URL, or other cases where you couldn't show your pretty confirmation box (or stop them).
cHao
Unfortunately they want to do away with the box entirely.
JohnathanKong
Then they're screwed. There's no way that'll always keep users from leaving, short of that ugly box. And most of the ways that people think they've found will clear out your form, thus defeating the whole purpose. The best that you can do is make a prettier box that you can show to confirm navigation to a clicked link on the page.
cHao
+2  A: 

Don't do it.

But if you want, try this. Record mouse positions and detect a quick upward thrust -- the user is reaching for the BIG X or the top left or top right. Now might be your chance for an unobtrusive box in the screen.

Full Decent
+1 for extreme evil
Brendan Long
lol, that would be a little too obtrusive, espically if they are filling out the form and accidently move the mouse above the screen.
JohnathanKong
A: 

You can change the Value of the url using document.location.href = "www.website.com"

Kasturi
IIRC you can't do this when the browser is already navigating away. This is explicitly because so many people in late 90s abused the hell out of it.
Oli
Actually this is possible to do because that's what I am using right now to redirect if they do want to get the free coupon to the seminar, although this isn't the part I am having issues with.
JohnathanKong
this works on Firefox.. not on Chrome, Safari, Opera. dunno about IE
Anurag
It works on IE as well. I use ie and firefox to test only, so that's probably why I haven't had any problems. I know it's bad a bad habit to be browser specific, but I usually just target ie and firefox because those are the main ones. Come to think of it, I think it worked on Safari because one of the other developers on my team uses mac, and he was able to see the redirection. Can't be sure though.
JohnathanKong
Just as a followup as I was thinking, if the main browsers support changing the url on page unload, spammers can essentially keep you at a site until you close the browser. Just a scarry though, because if ie and firefox supports this, those are the two biggest browsers.
JohnathanKong
+1  A: 

Not all browsers support a modal popup, without which your page would go ahead and navigate anyway.

This is real awful requirement. The sort of requirement that is reasonable in a desktop application but entire unreasonable feature of a web site. Imagine being unable to leave a website.

The answer is either use the horrible confirm box and lump it. Or don't ask the user to enter too much data per page. Use a step by step wizard style data entry, the loss due to accidental navigation is minimised.

AnthonyWJones
A: 
window.onbeforeunload = function() { return "Message"; };

Use a JavaScript like this to display a leave confirmation message.

Jason
He was already doing that. His client was only complaining that those default screens are ugly. Read the question once again.
BalusC
A: 

I can accomplish this feat using confirm boxes, but the client says that they are too ugly.

If the problem is the ugliness of the standard JS popup boxes, try something like this: http://www.sohtanaka.com/web-design/inline-modal-window-w-css-and-jquery/

Apart from that I second what most people are saying: do this with extreme caution if you don't want to lose users.

nico
That is exactly the problem with my solution right now, the ugliness of the standard JS popup boxes. I love the link that you sent me, but those boxes don't pause execution of code, so when the user tries to exit, that modal box will popup, then disappear almost instantly
JohnathanKong
@JohnathanKong: reading a little bit about it, it looks like `onunload` or `onbeforeunload` is the way to go, although you'll get the standard modal popup, in any case.You can personalise the message (see http://stackoverflow.com/questions/276660/how-can-i-override-the-onbeforeunload-dialog-and-replace-it-with-my-own ) but I really doubt you can replace the modal dialog.
nico
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Anurag
I really hope this answer is supposed to be a joke. You are listing amazingly bad practices.The part about `Every couple of hours send them an email giving them a direct link to the previously saved form, and maybe with special offers this time.` is really creepy. And the "You're a winner technique" is pathetic. Really, we don't need any more spam, please do not encourage people to use these horrible practices.Also... catching mouse movements... are you for real? What if I'm going to open another tab, open an application, minimise the browser etc etc etc... ?
nico
@nico - In the `Whatcha Gonna Do technique `, I've already mentioned that the user might use shortcuts or use one of the infinitely many other ways to get out. It is an optimization problem like I said, and there are no guarantees.
Anurag
@Anurag: You did not get my point. If I want to open a new tab or minimise the browser, I am gonna move the mouse outside of the page area. I **don't want** an annyoing popup showing up!
nico
@nico - I was hoping the technique are adequately named, but it appears my sarcasm wasn't obvious at all :)
Anurag
@Anurag: Well, I'm sorry but I've seen far too many sites doing that... you know how they say: don't give'em ideas...
nico
A: 

I would like to say, there ARE valid reasons to need that a user confirm that he/she really wants to leave a page, and show a confirmation box. GMail does this. Sometimes I get a message when closing gmail something along these lines: "GMail is still saving data. If you close now you may lose some data. Are you sure you want to leave?". This is necessary because GMail is ajax heavy.

I need to do this for the same reason. I wish someone would give a real answer!

Jonah