+9  A: 

You can thank those that came before you for the (now) unfair stigma.

It will take time for the technical community to grow out of the anti-social/ultra nerd stereo type (I feel like it's on the way out). Honestly I know a lot of people that I work(ed) with that still conform to the stereo type, so it can't be all that far fetched.

I feel like it just kind of comes with the territory, It seems like it obviously isn't true of you so no need to sweat it.

Also your statement that without you, your company would be useless is kind of egotistical.

Without people to sell the product your code would be useless, it's a team every member is critical.

Never forget that.

Brian Gianforcaro
+1 Sales folks are often the kings, but sometimes they are redundant.
Hamish Grubijan
+1  A: 

It's Saturday night, perhaps you should get out more :-)

The hum-drum of the office may not look so bad when you are outside a few beers.

Simon
he did say he went out
Claudiu
I know, and I said he should get out more.
Simon
+19  A: 

No.  

GregD
...because SO won't accept a simple "No." :)
Bill the Lizard
Yep. No it won't
GregD
Nice. That's a not-so-simple No, though. :)
Bill the Lizard
Sweet! Thank you!
GregD
Chicks dig geeks.
Simucal
+4  A: 

I think that the being a geek has changed meaning in the last few years. While before most people were extremely distant from computers and could leave others mess with computers, today they depend on "geeks". I don't find being a geek derogative; if the person means to use that to insult me, well, that's the wrong person to hang around with anyway.

To me, being a geek means to be a part of large community of people who feel and think like me. To me, it's a positive thing.

Being a nerd is different: I associate geeks with computers. I perceive nerds, on the other hand, as asocial beings that even geeks resent. They are not productive in any way; they may be smart-asses, they may play stuff like DnD. Geeks may do that too. But nerds are the guys who nobody wants to be.

And many people already feel ok about being geeks.

Ivan Vučica
This just proves how subjective terms can be in different parts of the world. I've always defined "nerd" as the smart, brainy, math and/or science whiz. Geeks are just people who have an intense interest in a particular subject (Computer Geek, Sci-Fi Geek, History Geek, etc.).
Bill the Lizard
...but that's just my opinion.
Bill the Lizard
Great, and if you are both, you are a Neek or a Gerd?
Gamecat
Of course, you're a Gerk
Ivan Vučica
+3  A: 

Say it out loud! I'm geek and I'm proud! Huh!

Paul Tomblin
+1 for my first laugh of the day, at 3pm
Unkwntech
+7  A: 

I think (seriously) you need to do something with your own self esteem...

Seriously, it's "all in our minds"...

I am the "ultra geek". Does that mean I am not a social being? Well, I founded a company which was valued for $2.5MILL at its peak. I attracted investors, I went to evangelizing meetings and got a lot of attention. I headhunted people who would get jobs at Google easily with 5 times the salary which chose to work for us. I am now on my second startup...

But when it comes to coding, that's what I know, that's what I love and that's my gift. Yes I like computers more then humans (in general - of course this does not apply for family and such)

I look at myself as the "ultra geek" and I can do stuff with computers and programming most people didn't realize was possible...

Am I a geek? Well, yes, of course. Just like a "homosexual" is a "gay" and a "female homosexual" is a "lesbian".

Though these words only have (negative) meaning if you LET them have negative meaning, and that's where your self esteem comes into the picture...

Be proud, grow tall!

If you are a skilled developer it doesn't matter what other people call you, including "Geek", "Asbie" (Asberger) or "Rudolf the Reindeer". A good geek should know he is a good geek, and if he is then he is confident in his own skills and gifts and doesn't take these kind of "name-tags" negatively...

Thomas Hansen
I don't think the down-votes or the offensive flag was nesicary here, I think that the point was made and made well, however Iam going to censor it a bit because not everyone will agree with me.
Unkwntech
I upvoted, seems some softies find arbitrary discussions as if they were personal attacks.
Kent Fredric
seems that even after I cencored it, they are still voting it down, so I removed what I think is the most 'offensive' chunk of text.
Unkwntech
little children with their "offensive" term mindset. Magical arbitrary words that are "bad" just as a word!. What nonsense.
Kent Fredric
I agree, I edited it to try and make people happy because he made a valid point.
Unkwntech
I'm not going to go so far as to say that this is offensive, but I just have to ask. If this isn't offensive, how do you know which parts to censor?
Bill the Lizard
Wow, I didn't mean to create so much controversy...!Seriously, did anyone at all see this as offensive...?Aren't we supposed to be able to attack taboos...?Sure I used some "taboo words", but I think it was pretty clear from my answer that I represented them as examples of *bad* behavior...
Thomas Hansen
If you look at Thomas's profile and do a whois query, you'll know that probably he is from Norway. Well, probably the perception of the incriminated word is different in Norway and in the USA. I mean, even if the word was offensive, surely it wasn't meant to be so. The remaining is worth a +1.
Federico Ramponi
@FedericoYou're probably right, there are probably some cultural differences here which kicks in and allows me to talk about taboos without being afraid of offending people due to stupid name tags...In Norway there's a story about getting the "trolls into sunlight" since "then they'll burst"...
Thomas Hansen
I think it's pretty clear which terms may be considered offensive. I think it's fine that you used them to try and make a point, but didn't you expect that at least a few people would take them out of context?
Bill the Lizard
@BillWell, yes if they "skimmed" the post only. But if they read it as a whole I think it should be pretty difficult to move them out of context. PS! I love this essay by Paul Graham about taboos... (hint!)thank you anyway for understanding instead of searching for misunderstandings... :)
Thomas Hansen
+3  A: 

The average person regards "nerds" and "geeks" with the same view as a peasant does a hedge-wizard. They disdain them for not fitting in with their own world-view, but have some grudging respect for their ability to grasp things which might as well be magic, based on their comprehension.

Remember, you have the power. Use it to instill respect and fear, or to install NetHack on web server.

Mike Wagner
+1  A: 

Those are just social science (or worse "Business") majors who don't know anything about anything and are secretly insecure about how ignorant they are. They're just the "teeming masses." I wouldn't worry about it.

BobbyShaftoe
A: 

Hi guys, I couldn't help myself and wrote down a blog about my thoughts about this. I think way too many "David Stars" are being handed out generously today... :(

Read it here; Don't be a geek...

Thomas Hansen
Me and some of my friends call each other 'wiggas'. You can guess why. We is white you see. We don't mind calling each other a transliterated word that some consider insulting. If a stranger called us that wed be offended, sure, but otherwise.....
Kent Fredric
A: 

I take it and make it an advantage. I've incorporated the 'geek' into my language in different ways. If someone makes a slightly derogitory 'geek comment', I might come back with "Hey, geeks write the software on your ATM machine".

When I've fixed things I might comment "UberGeek to the rescue" - I've been writing programs since grade school and I'm 46 years old. I joke that "the Geek Squad calls ME". And when I have a 5TB Windows Home Server with more Video On Demand than the cable company (You want a Doctor Who episode from 1971? Coming right up!) along with several other tech-solutions in the house and can apply some of that to doing something with my girlfriend (even if it's just some Google-fu), I'll say something like "There are advantages to dating a geek!"

I do break the preconceived notions of geekdom. I do shower, I'm not morbidly obese (though I could stand to lose about 20 pounds) and I've been married. I have a social life, though the ones my two daughters have put me to shame..

I'm certainly not like any of the caricature 'losers' in the Nerd Herd on "Chuck" but when you can build a computer form parts, you get a reputation. I just decided to go with it and make it a positive rather than a negative.

David

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