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I am crafting an application and cannot decide whether to use the terms Login/out or Logon/off. Is there a more correct option between these two? Should I use something else entirely (like "Sign on/off").

In terms of usability, as long as I am consistent it probably doesn't matter which terms I choose, but I did wonder about the origins of the terms - and whether one or another makes more grammatical sense. I also care deeply about the application I am creating, and want to take the time to investigate all aspects of its user experience.

+2  A: 

I've always distinguished the two in this manner:

Logon - you log on to a terminal or other multi-user access DEVICE
Login - you log in to an SOFTWARE application, either for authorization or authentication

although obviously, there is a lot of overlap between the two, especially since terminals aren't so common anymore. But as you say, it probably doesn't matter much.

Michael Bray
+1  A: 

I think all of these have their origins in handwritten logs of users who are accessing early systems. They are all semantically equivalent and users will likely understand them equally. I think it comes down to preference. Just pick one and use it consistently.

tvanfosson
+6  A: 

If only all problems were so easy to solve as trying to decide which grammar is "more correct". I think this is one of those that comes down to personal preference...

I personally prefer Login/Logout, but I know lots of software that uses Logon/Logoff.

BenAlabaster
+3  A: 

Here is an old thread about this problem: "Logon vs Login" Personally I think that you should use terminology your users are most familiar with. For Windows platform "logon" seems to be a common term.

Interesting fact: Google yields 2.040.000.000 results for "login" and 27.400.000 for "logon".

aku
I guess one can conclude login is preferable on the Web.
strager
yep, seems that login is the most popular term
aku
Windows is also "starting up" (why not just "starting"?) and requires you to click "Start" to shut down. I agree that "login" seems more popular; "logon" seems somehow dated.
Adam Liss
+8  A: 

Logon is used for a hardware system that starts up when used, like a computer.

Login is used for a software system where I have to enter my username and password.

Signin is used for identification, either physical such as a photo ID, or digital such as OpenID. What differs here from login is that in the case of an ID, I can use the same ID to access multiple sites, buildings, etc.

Edit 1: I should've added a disclaimer that I have no sources and make no guarantee that these are the official usage of the words. The definitions I'm offering about are based on my personal understanding of the usage, and are purely opinion.

Ripta Pasay
The explanations for login/logon "feel" right, but I'm not sure about signin -- is this convention or "officially correct" usage? What about signon? Thanks for the info!
Adam Liss
You have a source for this? I've never heard this distinction between logon/login before, and I've worked with hardware and software for a long time.Perhaps this is localle/industry specific?
Huntrods
@Adam: Signing on is a colloquial term for collecting unemployment benefit [or Job Seeker's allowance now] in the UK, so that may not be so good there.
BenAlabaster
Sorry. I just added a disclaimer that I make no guarantees that the above definitions are "officially correct" usage.
Ripta Pasay
@balabaster: Funny, in the US, signing on means joining a company, and some offer a sign-on bonus, which is simply extra cash up front for joining.
Adam Liss
+20  A: 

Since you're looking for correctness,

login, logout, logon, and logoff are all nouns:

"Please enter your login credentials."
"I see three logons but only two logoffs from this user."

The corresponding verbs are each two words:

"Please log in to see your reputation."
"You must log off and talk to a human."


Update: according to dictionary.com, the various definitions of login are all nouns and involve gaining access to a computer or computer service. Interestingly, logon redirects to login as an exact equivalent. Have the definitions evolved?

Adam Liss
This has irked me as well. You can also consider login as an adjective: Please enter your login information below.
strager
@strager: Yes, thanks for the catch. Don't even get me started on "doing things everyday" ... which is now apparently correct enough to appear on TV, in signage, and everywhere else except in a dictionary.
Adam Liss
Very interesting - it does look like the terms are both converging and evolving.
Brad Leach
+18  A: 

Voice of democracy: term / number of google results:

login    2,020,000,000
sign in    430,000,000
logon       27,700,000
log on      18,200,000
logout      83,500,000
log out     34,500,000
sign out    19,400,000
log off      5,350,000
Silver Dragon
+1  A: 

Microsoft's framework design guidelines recommmend using "LogOn" rather than "LogIn" but "SignIn" rather than "SignOn" (see rule CA1726 from FxCop's code analysis). Granted this is talking about framework/API naming conventions, but it's worth putting out there for people to consider.

Matt Hamilton
I'd summarily discount any term in CamelCase, which reeks of, um, MadeUpness. I'm afraid I'm turning into Andy Rooney.
Adam Liss
Yeah, but the framework design guidelines are about identifiers in code rather than UI. Still, I thought it was worth bringing up purely for the "on" vs "in" debate.
Matt Hamilton
+4  A: 

with spaces:
http://google.com/trends?q="log+in","log+on","sign+in","sign+on"
winner: "sign in"

no spaces:
http://google.com/trends?q=login,logon,signin,signon
winner: login

spaces vs no spaces:
http://google.com/trends?q="sign+in",login
winner: login


with spaces:
http://google.com/trends?q="log+out","log+off","sign+out","sign+off"
winner: "log off"

no spaces:
http://google.com/trends?q=logout,logoff,signout,signoff
winner: logout

spaces vs no spaces:
http://google.com/trends?q="log+off",logout
winner: logout

jayrdub
I did a survey off all the top sites in alexa, almost without exception, social networking sites use "Login", all other sites (portals and email etc) use sign in.If AOL says sign in and that's what their users understand, then go with that since I'd say that is the LCD
jayrdub
+1  A: 

My preferences (less popular, but many cool websites are using this convention):

[Sign In] [Join]

Welcome, UserName! [Sign Out]

I wouldn't use any of the following: Log On, Logon, Log In, Log Out

Another option is (which is by the way more popular):

[Login] [Register]

Welcome, UserName! [Logout]

Google Stats (hits):

[Sign In], [Sign Out] -> 1 210 000 000 + 300 700 000 = 1 510 700 000
[Login], [Logout]     -> 1 940 000 000 + 88 200 000  = 2 028 200 000
[Log In], [Log Out]   -> 873 000 000   + 83 800 000  =   956 800 000

[Sign Up] for registration link is also a good option but it does't look good near [Sign In], you should use it wether with [Login] or seporatly.

[Sign In] [Join] on a page looks more user-friendly (less official) for me than [Login] [Register]

Koistya Navin
A: 

I have to say, that I looked into that Q and usually: Login, Logon, Logoff or Log in, Log on, Log off are used in applied applications.

Such verbs verbs & nouns like Sign in, Join, Sign out, Sign up are more used in web applications, but as it was said earlier it all

comes down to personal preference...

Eugene