is there an alternative to the Internet Developer Toolbar for IE7?

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is there an alternative to the Internet Developer Toolbar for IE7?

Does anyone know of an alternative to the Internet Developer Toolbar for IE7 that I can use for dom browsing and css debugging? I've used Firebug in the past and the IDT seemed anemic in comparison. It also seemed to crash my browser a lot.

OR: Has the IDT for IE7 improved to the point that it's almost as good as Firebug?

Update: shortly after writing this I started using the Developer Toolbar. Well, that's a strong term. I tried to use it. It's not working at all. Specifically I needed Select Element By Click and it won't do a damn thing. All the menu options are grayed out even after restarting IE7. Good thing I asked this question, looks like the IDT is just as buggy as I remember.

+3 A:

Debug Bar is pretty nice, and is free for personal use. You have to pay for it if using commercially though.

Update: I should add that it did crash once or twice when there was some fairly advanced javascript. Didn't kill the entire browser but the toolbar was rendered useless until I restarted IE.

Rich 2009-01-30 18:40:58

just installed. nice find.

codemonkey 2009-01-30 18:55:47

Veddy niiice. Installed and it works right away. Site license is a bit much for me to get mgmt to swallow though, especially with IE8 around the corner.

jcollum 2009-01-30 19:03:29

The find element by click doesn't work very well for my page; it's only able to find elements that are in a small section of the page.

jcollum 2009-01-30 19:11:40

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IE7 hasn't. But IE8 has. The developer tools included in Beta 2 and RC1 are very, very good. Well above the level of Firebug.

DannySmurf 2009-01-30 18:41:59

Won't work for me, I'm stuck with IE7 for at least the next few months. I'd prefer that MS fixed the software it released rather than just releasing a new one (with new bugs I presume).

jcollum 2009-01-30 18:59:07

But I think the Developer Toolbar is kind of an unsupported piece of software made by an intern at MS so it's not "official" enough to have bug fixes.

jcollum 2009-01-30 19:02:26

It has a JS profiler, which is very nice. Beyond that, can you explain how it is well above the level of Firebug?

Chetan Sastry 2009-01-30 19:23:59

Well, for starters it doesn't bring down the browser as Firebug is sometimes wont to do. Technically, I like the fact that it will debug all JS (including script inside handlers), allows inserting watch variables, will debug compatibility issues across versions, etc.

DannySmurf 2009-01-30 19:47:43

Check and see if you have the latest version of the toolbar. I used to use a version prior to the one I now use, and the older version did crash IE7 quite a bit.

As far as features go, it would help to know what you feel you're missing. Having a lot of features isn't the same as having a lot of features you use.

AnonJr 2009-01-30 18:43:50

mostly I'm looking for one that doesn't crash and burn all the time and works in IE7; beyond that I don't need much; if it had 90% of firebugs features and worked in IE7 I'd be happy

jcollum 2009-01-30 18:45:37

Go to the MS site and get the latest version then. Since my last update I've not had it crash (watch, now that I've posted that...) I use it at work all the time since we're supposed to be IE-only (long story, don't ask)

AnonJr 2009-01-30 21:59:03

You will want to uninstal the previous version first though.

AnonJr 2009-01-30 21:59:53

+1 A:

Check out Firebug Lite : http://getfirebug.com/lite.html

inkedmn 2009-01-30 18:58:52

Won't work: "Insert this line of code into any page that you want to contain Firebug lite:" <-- no way that's gonna fly with the team

jcollum 2009-01-30 19:10:58

You can also run it as a bookmarklet, perhaps you could give that a try?

Sam Murray-Sutton 2009-02-03 13:09:15

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