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Here is the scenario; I'm a .Net software developer that works from home using my own equipment, which I prefer to do because I have a pretty good system for development (dual screens, fast system....)

However from time to time I find that I need to upgrade ram, disk or something that would make it easier and sometimes faster to develop applications.

Since my employer (yes I'm not consulting) didn't have to purchase any equipment and I have a zero space foot print in the office I feel that there should be some sharing of the hardware upgrades.

My questions comes down to this, What arrangement have you had (or suggest) that would be fair to both parties. What justifications do you come up with? Or do you think I'm way off base here?

As always, comments welcomed.

+1  A: 

You'll probably find that your employer already thinks he's compensated you for your equipment requirements by letting you work at home.

Paul Tomblin
Not to mention the money you're saving on transportation costs - gas, metro, wear-and-tear on the bike, whatever. I'd be happy to pay for equipment in such as case. Further, if the employer buys something, he now has some ownership rights.
Don Branson
Great point Don, If your employer ends up buying all your equipment, you may find yourself without any equipment when you leave. And if they pay half, you should probably have it in writing what happens to the equipment when you leave, one way or the other.
Kibbee
@Don - the money you save from working at home was part of what I was getting at. Plus the cost to them of the fact that they can't just walk down the hall to talk to you.
Paul Tomblin
Don, Paul - Now my small employer doesn't have an office, so he is the one that needed an employee that could work from home. Yes it's nice, and yes it does have benefits. It also has draw backs, such as quick one line questions, or suggestions.
Rick
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Are you using the equipment exclusively for your employer?

lyates
No, but I would say more than 60% of the time is used for the company.
Rick
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The issue here is that you establish a precedent, and I would think your employer now assumes it is YOUR responsibility to take care of you own equipment.

Otávio Décio
It is my responsibility, but is it fair that they get the use of equipment for nothing? What happens 2 years from now and I should have an upgrade to keep up with Windows 7 and stuff like that?
Rick
If your job requires you to run an OS that your hardware can't handle, it should be your employers responsibility to give you adequate hardware. Of course, this depends on the agreement you have with your employer...
Bryan Oakley
... if the agreement was "hey, let me work from home and I'll supply all my own equipment" then you are probably out of luck. The best solution is just to be honest and open with your employer -- present a business case for the upgrade.
Bryan Oakley
Unfortunately - I have been there. Most businesses will consider a privilege not a right for you to work from home, and if you make it "difficult" for them by asking too much, may no longer like the arrangement. In today's economy, it may be better for you not to ask for so much. just my opinion
ginzotech - Yep I hear that!!!! My employer wanted me to use my home office because he is a small business with no real office space.
Rick
+6  A: 

I worked from home for 3 years. We didn't have a formal agreement but my employer was generally willing to pay for my equipment. We just discussed on a case-by-case basis.

My theory, and he agreed, was that spending a reasonable amount of money on things that would have a direct effect on my productivity was worth it.

Of course I also had to give back a lot of the stuff they bought for me when I moved on.

Mark Biek
+3  A: 

I think you need to be aware that your own equipment means it's your own property to be used, maintained and sold by you as your own property (and, presumably also to be used as a tax deduction also perhaps?).

So the business can't claim the usual depreciation costs. Whether you work from home or the office is IMHO not really applicable. Working from home is a benefit in itself (and you can claim home office expenses against tax also.

If the business required you to work with a specific type of hardware or specialist product, then I would expect them to provide it.

However, if you've worked with the company for a while, I think it would be fair to take this kind of thing into consideration during a pay review (or equivalent), especially if other employees get hardware routinely replaced with newer models. It might be a way to suppliment your employee agreement in substitution for a pay rise, for example.

RobS
claiming home office expenses is harder than it sounds, at least in my experience. US tax laws are pretty stringent -- the space has to be exclusively for work, and even then the deduction is minimal. Though maybe I just got bad advice back when I was in that situation.
Bryan Oakley
Hard to say, but I know what you mean. My tax deducations last year for home office were almost not worth deducting :(
RobS
I'm in Canada - so I think the tax laws are a little easier on that issue. I do have a separate office that use for at least 8 hours a day, maybe more for developing.
Rick
You should be able to claim equipment depreciation for sure, no? In any case, I think it's a valid point to upgrade the hardware.. perhaps the cost could be shared but you retain ownership (and can resell and claim depreciation)?
RobS
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I think the nutshell summary is, if it's your hardware then you are responsible for it. If it's company hardware, they have an obligation to keep it in working order. In any case, saying "I'll be more productive" or "my job would be easier" is a pretty tough sell. Use hard facts to back up your claim.

If you have a good relationship with your boss, simply providing evidence that you genuinely need an upgrade should be sufficient. Make sure you need it and not just want it, and make sure to tell them you're aware that when your employment is up you'll return any hardware they pay for.

Bryan Oakley
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I recently spoke with a company about their benefits, and they said a standard benefit was to give a per annum amount for computer upgrades. If the employee wants to spend more, then can, but the company would provide up to (if I remember correctly) $1000 per year, and $2000 after one year of employment.

Elie
sounds like a good approach for both parties. $1000.00 seems like a very healthy budget for upgrades.
Rick
yeah I've worked with a few companies who have offered this also. It keeps the business and the employees on the latest technology.
RobS
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The problem with having the company buy you pieces of equipment is that you have to keep track of which ones they bought for you and return them when you leave the job.

A better idea may be to just get them to buy you an entire machine. You just use that machine for work, and then return it to them if you leave the job.

I think that any reasonable manager would be perfectly willing to provide proper equipment to their employees to help their productivity.

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From my experience in the past, which I feel may have been similar, I was technically responsible for the upkeep of all my hardware. My company offered to purchase hardware for me, and I declined, for the same reason you stated. I like working with my own, higher quality equipment, and don't have the space for another whole setup.

I will say though, that it never hurt me to ask. At one point I requested that my company purchase a video card for me, and they happily obliged. I think it just depends on your specific situation.

BigDave
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I would prefer to keep my systems and work systems separate, as if I was office-based. If you were in the office they would be providing you with kit for exclusive work use, I don't see why that should be different at home.

Valerion