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We are trying to run SCRUM for a small development team (three and a half developers) working on an on-line application and we are having trouble getting time from non-development resource e.g. product owner, user testing, etc.

I'm working on a business case for getting more non-development resource and for it to be more responsive to our requests for their involvement.

Current situation:

  • The product owner is a team of 5 people, half of whom are across the Atlantic from the development team (which is better than the previous situation where there was no owner at all)
  • The product owner "team" only meets, virtually, twice a month
  • There is no dedicated user testing or QA resource
  • The fastest time to complete user testing was 3 elapsed weeks, for about 2 man days of testing
  • We're working to a monthly sprint

Specific questions:

  • How much time per week should the product owner (if they were a single person) be spending on their product owner role?
  • Would you expect the product owner to be available "all day every day"?
  • How much dedicated testing/QA resource would you expect to be available per month?

I've tried Googling for "authoritative" answers, or just any reports on team resource levels, but have not been able to find anything.

Does anyone know of anything like this so my business case won't just be "I think...." but can have references to expert opinion and real world statistics?

A: 

I doubt you'll find any authorative answers for these questions, as they're almost entirely dependent on a specific situation.

Regarding your questions:

In my experience a product owner may be full time involved on a project, to a brief meeting every few months.

For your type of project, from the details you've given, I would not expect the product owner to be available all day every day, more likely they'll be available for one or two meetings every week or so. (1 hour meetings.)

The amount of testing depends on where the project is, in it's lifecycle, however this may be done by other developers, BA's, projecct managers and users, so it depends on your companies process.
For your size team I would say 1 full time QA resource might be useful. (Depending on how good your developers are.)

Bravax
A: 

I am a certified SCRUM Master and following is my analysis on your situation:

Points To be notes:

  • SCRUM does not allow 'a half developer' scenarios, developers should work dedicated on the project on hand.
  • Multiple product owner is a bad situation to be in. There is a person required to have a clear vision about the project. Are you considering clients as Product owners?
  • If you are tweaking SCRUM then u are not doing SCRUM and doing SCRUM-BUT.

Suggestive Answers:

How much time per week should the product owner (if they were a single person) be spending on their product owner role?

You can have a proxy product owner within the team who is responsible to drive the product development and create proper communication bridge between original product owners and team.

Ideally product owner should be a dedicated person, but as per your situation some who can decide the tasks(business analyzed clear requirements) to be taken into this sprint, and prepare for the tasks for the next sprint within your given time can suffice.

Would you expect the product owner to be available "all day every day"?

Not necessarily, but should be present to explain any doubts about tasks by any means of communication.

How much dedicated testing/QA resource would you expect to be available per month?

Throughout the whole sprint. In, SCRUM everyone is called as 'developers' and should be present through out the sprint, this in-term increases knowledge sharing and brings up overall team performance.

HTH

nils_gate
Clarifying on the 'a half developer', it's half a developer as the person isn't a developer but can do some development work relating, mainly, to translation but not "actual" programming. So we use his skills when we can, the rest of the time he has other, less important, tasks.
Bigwave
By 'a half developer' I meant, a resource not working full time on a single project. The context switching does not allow him to perform at his best.In your case, it would be good to involve him in all team actively. He will soon mature to be a full developer. :)
nils_gate
A: 

You can't have an owner of a project that's a team, as you're finding it just doens't work. You have a couple of options, my favourite would be to declare independence - they don't want the responsibility of being the owner - you take the responsibility yourself. You clearly understand the problem, try grabbing control, send a few pithy emails outlining the new structure - do NOT ask for permission, just do it that will shake them up a little.

Other answers - you won't get an owner available 24x7, you have to work around the owners schedule, but you can demand to know that schedule in advance.

QA - for 3.5 developers I'd like between .5 to 1 QA people dedicated, I'd expect between 0 and 1, with it being much more likly to be 0, if you can't get a dedicated tester go straight to the users - you are the new owner remember, build a brains trust of early QA users and subvert the organisation.

BTW - answers based on 50+ projects in 20 organisations.

MrTelly
+1  A: 

How much time per week should the product owner (if they were a single person) be spending on their product owner role?

I would say that about a day per week should be fine on average based on my experience with a team of 15 DEV+QA and one Product Owner. I would also strongly suggest following the proxy product owner approach, or create a requirements architect (google Dean Leffingwell requirements architect). This is in essence what we did, as our Product Owner didn't have the bandwidth to spend that time on the project.

Would you expect the product owner to be available "all day every day"?

of course thats the ideal. It also helps if there is a proxy that IS co-located. Without that, I would strongly urge to setup an SLA of time to answer questions related to current+next sprint via EMAIL. e.g. return by end of business day or something.

How much dedicated testing/QA resource would you expect to be available per month?

As answered above, it depends on the type of project and the amount of developers / BAs on the team. I would suggest having at least a 1:1 relation between BAs and testers, on the logic that the amount of QA required is a strong function of the amount of requirements specified. Since you are talking about an online application, I assume there isn't a very long regression/integration cycle, so a relation of 1:3 to developers can suffice. I see testers as an important influence on the requirements and usability not just bug fixing btw. Another factor is whether you intend to adopt Agile engineering practices e.g. TDD, Unit Testing, Continuous Integration, etc. If so, the testing resources will be much more focused on test definition, usability, performance/load testing, rather than regression.

One way to see what is the bottleneck is to adopt some sort of Kanban board which visualizes the workflow. On that board you can see where the bottleneck is. Whether its in the PO stuff, development, or testing. If you are using a single scrum team with a regular Task Board Chart, you can easily get this information by adding a column for "In Testing" and "In specification" (so overall you have - Pending -> In specification -> In DEV Progress -> In Testing -> Pending PO Approval -> DONE). If you see that too many of your sticky notes are stuck in a certain column/stage, you know where to look for a problem. Show this to your management, its empiric and much better than any information/rules of thumb seen in other projects, or at least a very good complement to that...

Yuval