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I've been using ERWin for about 10 years now. My version is ancient and I do not think it's worth paying the rediculous upgrade price!

Problem is it's starting to show it's age - I've been using it primarliy for MS SQL.

I wish I could justify Embarcadero's ER/Studio, but I just need something that will allow me to design a DB and sync it.

I've checked out http://stackoverflow.com/questions/674911/light-weight-er-diagram-tool, but nothing fits except schemabank, but a web based tool has too many drawbacks (recurring fees, less integrated, off-site storage of data).

I've also used SQL Maestro for regular queries and DB management, it was ok, but has a few definate shortcomings. Has anybody used the ER designer successfully?

What do you guys use?

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We just use Visual Studio Database Edition (which is now included in the Team System Developer Edition).

The possibility to create diagrams in SQL Server as well as linking ER diagrams in Visio.

We currently use ORM tools so the documentation diagrams are the ORM diagrams in some cases.

In short, 10 years ago we used and could defend the extra cost of a purpose built ER tool. Now we just use what is build into the other tools that we use.

Shiraz Bhaiji
I've tried to use VS before for ER, it worked to a degree but it had a frustrating interface and you get the feel this is actualy a drawing tool bent to make work as a DB tool. That was 2000, I'll try the new version, thanks.
Hein du Plessis
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Try Netbeans, its free and open source. http://www.netbeans.org/

Instructions on ER diagrams and SQL databases http://wiki.netbeans.org/ERDRequirementsV2

And instructions on connecting to MSSQL http://wiki.netbeans.org/AccessMssql

MontyBongo
I've used Netbeans for Java Development, but it's a major development environment. I did not realise it had an ER designer. I preferably need something small and simple, installing NetBeans for the ER tool would be like buying a car for the cigarette lighter :)I'll give it a go nonetheless.
Hein du Plessis
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I quite like the Quest Toad Data Modeler - so far it seems quite capable, but it's a fraction of the cost of what other "professional grade" ER tools normally cost.

Check it out! I'd say it's worth a good look for sure.

marc_s
Thank you will do!
Hein du Plessis
There's no pricing on the web site, only request quote which starts a process of asking questions - what did it cost?
Hein du Plessis
yeah, that's annoying, I know - I was quoted for 435 Euros in Europe for a single license.
marc_s
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"I've been using ERWin for about 10 years now."

Now I know why I feel so worn out :-) (Sorry, couldn't resist)

Erwin Smout
lol you have no idea. Same version day in day out.
Hein du Plessis
A: 

You could also try DB designer -- freebie for MySQL.

Damir Sudarevic
Oops, you said MS SQL; Toad should be ~$450.
Damir Sudarevic