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I know there are at least 10 different ways to structure project in version control. I'm curious what some methods being used are and which ones work for you. I've worked with SVN, TFS, and currently/unfortunately VSS. I've seen version control implemented very poorly and just OK, but never great.

Just to get the ball rolling, here is a review of things I've seen.

This example is SVN-based, but applies to most VCS's.

  1. branch the individual projects that are part of site /division/web/projectName/vb/src/[trunk|branches|tags]

  2. branch the whole site, in the case I've seen, the whole site except for core components was branched. /division/[trunk|branches|tags]/web/projectName/vb/src/

  3. Use main-line a default, only branch when necessary for huge changes.

+6  A: 

Example for SVN:

trunk/

branch/

tags/

The trunk should be kept at a point where you can always push a release from it. There should be no huge gaping bugs that you know about(of course there will be eventually but that is what you should strive for).

Every time you need to make a new feature, do a design change, whatever, branch. Tag that branch at the start. Then when you are finished with the branch tag it at the end. This helps out with merging back into trunk.

Every time you need to push a release, tag. This way if something goes horribly wrong you can rollback to the previous release.

This setup keeps trunk as clean as possible and allows you to make quick bug fixes and push them out while keeping the majority of your development in branches.

Edit: For 3rd party stuff it depends. If I can avoid it I do not have it under source control. I keep it in a directory outside source control and include it from there. For things like jquery, I do leave it under source control. The reason is it simplifies my script for pushing. I can simply have it do an svn export and rsync.

mk
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What about external dependencies such a the AJAXTookit or some other 3rd party extension that's used on several projects?

Greg Ogle
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I think the SCM policies and procedures a team adopts are going to be very dependent on the development process they are using. If you've got a team of 50 with several people working on major changes simultaneously and releases only occurring every 6 months, it makes a lot of sense for everyone to have his own branch where he can work in isolation and only merge in changes from other people when he wants them. On the other hand, if you're a team of 5 all sitting in the same room it makes sense to branch much less frequently.

Assuming you're working on a small team where communication and collaboration is good and releases are frequent, it makes very little sense to ever branch IMO. On one project we simply rolled the SVN revision number into the product version number for all our releases and we never even tagged. In the rare event that there was a critical bug found in prod we would simply branch straight from the revision that was released. But most of the time we simply fixed the bug in the branch and released from trunk at the end of the week as scheduled. If your releases are frequent enough you'll almost never run into a bug that can't wait until the next official release.

I've worked on other projects where we never could have gotten away with that, but due to the lightweight development process and low ceremony we were able to use a lightweight version control policy very effectively.

I'll also mention that everything I've written is coming from an enterprise IT context where there's only a single production instance of a given code base. If I was working on a product that was deployed at 100 different customer sites the branching and tagging practices would have to be a little more strenuous in order to manage all of the independent update cycles across all the instances.

Mike Deck
+1  A: 

What about external dependencies such a the AJAXTookit or some other 3rd party extension that's used on several projects?

Source control is for source code, not binaries. Keep any 3rd party assemblies/jars in a separate repository. If you're working in the Java world try something like Maven or Ivy. For .Net projects a simple shared drive can work well as long as you have decent policies around how it's structured and updated.

Mike Deck
+5  A: 

For my projects, I always use this structure.

  • trunk
    • config
    • docs
    • sql
      • initial
      • updates
    • src
      • app
      • test
    • thirdparty
      • lib
      • tools
  • tags
  • branches
  • config - Used to store my application config templates. During the build process, I take these templates and replace token placeholders with actual values depending on what configuration I am making the build.
  • docs - Any application documentation gets placed in here.
  • sql - I break my sql scripts into two directories. One for the initial database setup for when you are starting fresh and another place for my update scripts which get ran based on the version number of the database.
  • src - The application source files. In here I break source files based on application and tests.
  • thirdparty - This is where I put my third party libraries that I reference inside of my application and not available in the GAC. I split these up based on lib and tools. The lib directory holds the libraries that need to be included with the actual application. The tools directory holds the libraries that my application references, but are only used for running unit tests and compiling the application.

My solution file gets placed right under the trunk directory along with my build files.

Dale Ragan
+7  A: 

We practice highly componentised development using Java, we have about 250 modules in trunk that have independent life cycles. Dependencies are managed through Maven (that's a best practice right there), every iteration (bi-weekly) actively developed modules get tagged with a new version. 3 digit version numbers with strict semantics (major.minor.build - major changes means backwards incompatible, minor changes mean backwards compatible and build number changes mean backwards and forwards compatible). Our ultimate software product is an assembly that pulls in dozens of individual modules, again as Maven dependencies.

We branch modules/assemblies when we need to make a bug fix or enhancement for a released version and we can not deliver the HEAD version. Having tagged all versions makes this easy to do but branches still incur a significant administrative overhead (specifically keeping branches in sync with certain HEAD changesets) that are partly caused by our tools, Subversion is sub-optimal for managing branches.

We find that a fairly flat and above all predictable tree structure in the repository is crucial. It has allowed us to build release tools that take away a lot of the pain and danger from a manual release process (updated release notes, project compiles, unit tests run through, tag is made, no SNAPSHOT dependencies, etc). Avoid putting too much categorization or other logic in your tree structure.

We roughly do something like the following:

svnrepo/
  trunk/
    modules/
      m1/ --> will result in jar file
      m2/
      ...
    assemblies/
      a1/
      ...
  tags/
    modules/
      m1/
        1.0.0/
        1.0.1/
        1.1.0/
       m2/
      ...
    assemblies/
      a1/
        iteration-55/
        ...
  branches/
    m1/
      1.0/
      ...

For external dependencies, I can not overemphasize something like Maven: manage your dependencies as references to versioned, uniquely identified binary artifacts in a repository.

For intenal module/project structure: stick to a standard. Uniformity is key. Again, Maven can help here since it dictates a structure. Many structures are fine, as long as you stick to them.

Boris Terzic
Is there something like maven that even exists for .NET? I've been unable to unearth anything.
whaley
NMaven specifically targets .NET ( http://www.codeplex.com/nmaven ), have not used it myself. At work we have .NET code that is built using normal Maven and some Visual Studio wrapping plugins.
Boris Terzic
It looks like a good start that we're kicking off a new project with a structure similar to yours :) Out of curiosity, do you have a shared parent pom? If so, do you place the parent pom in the "modules" directory or as an actual directory inside "modules"?
aberrant80
We have a hierarchy of parent poms and we treat them just like we do modules: they each have their own "module" directory inside modules. Since Maven2 this is finally cleanly possible since the parent poms are inherited over the repository. In Maven1 you actually have to use relative paths and it becomes nasty.
Boris Terzic
Thank you :D Just one more question if you don't mind. We've had to do some module-renaming right now (inappropriate initial names), and we have a little argument going on. If, say, your "trunk/modules/m1" needs to be renamed to "trunk/modules/m10", do you think "tags/modules/m1" should be renamed to "tags/modules/m10" or should "tags/modules/m1" be retained and a new "tags/modules/m10" be created?
aberrant80
Considering that you tag so that the build is reproducible and given that if you tagged you probably have already released artifacts with the "old" name, I would create a new "m10" tag folder next to the old one. In our case, the old modules would otherwise have artifactIds that are different from their module directory names and that would be non-intuitive.
Boris Terzic
+2  A: 

I can appreciate the logic of not putting binaries in the repository but I think there is a huge advantage too. If you want to be able to pull a specific revision out from the past (usually an older tag) I like being able to have everything I need come from the svn checkout. Of course this doesn't include Visual Studio or the .NET framework but having the right version of nant, nunit, log4net, etc. makes it really easy to go from checkout to build. This way getting started is as easy as "svn co project" followed by "nant build".

One thing we do is put ThirdParty binaries in a separate tree and use svn:external to bring it the version we need. To make life easy, we'll have a folder for each version that has been used. For example, we might bring in the ThirdParty/Castle/v1.0.3 folder to the current project. This way everything need to build/test the product is inside or below the project root. The tradeoff in disk space is well worth it in our experience.

dpp
+1  A: 

And another comment/question

It seems the majority think that 3rd party binaries should live outside version control.
-- my opinion is that they should live in an independent project folder or repository.. i.e. /share/MyCool3rdPartyLib/[trunk...]

This give you the advantage of just pulling dependencies from version control.

So, are there disadvantages to such a tactic?

And one more aspect that I don't think is addressed.

Another though is internal libraries. For example, if you have a Utility library that is shared amongst 10 independent projects. You have the option of treating as a 3rd party library or to copy it into your project (which would have the nasty side-affect of not allowing one to refactor the library, but would lock you into a particular version).

Greg Ogle
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We migrated from the bad world of VSS with one giant repository (over 4G) before switching to SVN. I really struggled with how to set up the new repository for our company. Our company is very "old" school. It's difficult to get change I'm one of the younger developers and I'm 45! I am part of a corporate development team that works on programs for a number of departments in our company. Anyway I set up our directories like this

+ devroot
    +--Dept1
        +--Dept1Proj1
        +--Dept2Proj2
    +--Dept2
        +--Dept2Proj1
    +--Tools
        +--Purchase3rdPartyTools
        +--NLog
        +--CustomBuiltLibrary

I wanted to include the ability to branch, but quite honestly that's just too much at this point. Couple things we still struggle with using this scheme.

  • It's hard to fix production problems if you are working on a major product upgrade (ie because we don't do branching)
  • It's hard to manage the concept of promoting from "Dev" to "Prod". (Don't even ask about promoting to QA)
Monroecheeseman
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As we have all the artifacts and construction in the same tree we have something like:

  • Trunk

    • Planning&Tracking
    • Req
    • Design
    • Construction
      • Bin
      • Database
      • Lib
      • Source
  • Deploy

  • QA
  • MA
Mariano
Why was this marked down? Seems like a decent structure even if it isn't one of the standard versions you see.
Nathan Palmer