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Ok, here's the deal : I've been at my current workplace for almost 9 years, way too long i'm sure. Most of my time relates to one system slightly older than that, written mostly in vb6 and using Crystal 8.5 and SQL Server 2000. It's finally due to be replaced, but they keep slashing the budget for it and training and other things with the result that i'm sure it'll be a farce I want no part of. However, as i'm so closely linked to this system they say they can't easily move me to something else, especially some other big projects using new technology. So i'm only able to advise on those and act as a kind of knowledge guy to all the systems, basically a helping mind. Question is, how can I persuade them to move me to the other projects? I'm almost at the point of refusing to do any significant work on the rewrite of my system - I genuinely don't want anything to do with it anymore as it's got Doomed Project written all over it. I'm concerned it's already damaged my career working on it as long as I have. Short version : how to escape a doomed project and move to a good one?

+6  A: 

How's your rapport with your boss? It sounds like it might be time to have a talk with him or her, and possibly contemplate moving on...

Peter
Pretty good, actually. But this place doesn't give him much say in how things work.
CodeByMoonlight
+1 just for communication. Some people are so afraid to talk that the first time the boss knows your leaving is when you hand your resignation over. Granted this can sometimes be their problem, but it takes 2 to tango. Let management and HR know your position, and that you aren't challenged by the current work, but you like the company and wouldn't want to leave. This is a good way to phrase a threat...
Spence
It sounds like you have some useful knowledge. A polite suggestion to the higher-ups (possibly via your boss) that you might move on might make them pay a bit more attention.
Peter
@Peter: that is a difficult game to play - there are many bosses out there that take the 'we dont negotiate with terrorists' approach. ie, if we give in this time, others will feign quitting to get what they want, too.
akf
heh, heh, interesting. it's a shame when communication breaks down to that level. may I again emphasise the `polite' part, which includes not being too forceful, and that co-opting the boss might help here - especially with understanding the higher-up politics and possible risks.
Peter
I think if i was to leave i'd throw a large division into a panic, as they've let themselves become totally reliant on me. I might angle for a raise and my own support staff of one or two juniors, if they're panicked enough :pBut it's not likely they'd accept that, even if it is what they need.
CodeByMoonlight
instead of being polite, why not try the truth? "I don't wanna work on the project anymore. It's been 9 years now... re-assign me or I'll go crazy."
SnOrfus
politeness and the truth are compatible! it's all in the way you say it.
Peter
+6  A: 

This post has get a new job written all over it. I just quit one so I know.

Agreed, find a new position. Bernanke says the recession is over. :)
Robert Harvey
And Bernanke is a smart man.
Alex
For him, did it ever really start? Yes, i've been leaning towards the new job thing for a while and it may be the only way. There's so much going on at the moment, though - i want a part of it. Just not the part i'm stuck with :p
CodeByMoonlight
More advice: You don't specifically say your company is in financial trouble but you said your project is having its budget slashed. Is this an isolated case or is your company cutting back across the board? If they are laying people off or showing other signs of trouble you need to be ready to bail. They will lay the "lean and mean," "refocused," etc. BS on super thick to distract employees from reality and get them fired up. In my experience employers sound *most* optimistic to their employees when there is the *least* reason to be optimistic. If you see warning signs, make an exit strategy!
The company is doing pretty well, but profits fell a bit this year so they're trimming budgets while hiring more non-IT staff. No lay-offs.
CodeByMoonlight
+2  A: 

The old project seems to be running fine still, so its not like you're abandoning your post if you quit. Let them know you're adamant about working on other projects or you'll be forced to leave.

Soviut
Tempting, and once i've resolved a few other things, a strong possibility. This place needs a shock anyway - the non-IT people don't value us much.
CodeByMoonlight
+2  A: 

One thing that I wouldn't do is refuse to do work. You have identified in your post that your company thinks your talents are best suited for the project you are on. If you refuse to do that, they would have a reason to let you go, and potentially for cause, which might mean that you wouldn't get severance pay.

The best way to move to a new project is to discuss your desire to move to other projects with your boss. You have been there for 9 years, he should at least listen. If he lets it go, don't stop. In your weekly 1-1 status meeting (if you don't have one yet, set one up for this purpose) continually remind him that you've put your time in, you have a lot to offer, etc. Be persistent. If he thinks you are being a pain, he might just offer you a package to leave.

akf
Actually, my boss and his boss believe i'm wasted on what i'm doing. There's just nobody else available to do it that has my in-depth knowledge of this system. With a rewrite, that 'handicap' partly disappears. My boss is also cautiously supportive about me not wanting to get too involved with this and begin the loop again.
CodeByMoonlight
They must be able to live without you on the project 24/7. How do they cope when you are away on vacation? Give them the option of making you a team lead and hiring a new resource to learn from you. You then have an easy out.
akf
Sounds good to me.They don't cope too well while i'm away. The app is fine, but they're fond of complex bespoke reports that analyze eight years of its data in ten different ways, and ask for it on short notice. It is these that are a major driver in me wishing to be free of this project.
CodeByMoonlight
+5  A: 

As it happens, this IS a good time to be looking for a new job -- I would not have said that even a couple months ago, but now the really smart high-tech shops are smelling spring in the air and scrambling to ramp up hiring again after many months of frozen or near-frozen hiring or even layoffs. I can tell by several tell-tale signs -- some places doubling employee referral bonuses, annoying phone calls and other outreach attempts towards me by recruiters and head-hunters who (after years of trying) had left me more or less alone for the last year or so, interviewing-related workload growing again after a year or so of relative calm -- all signs point the same way... Silicon Valley (mostly, in my case -- but I doubt this is a regionally limited phenomenon) IS scrambling to hire again.

This may matter because far too many firms are dysfunctionally ossified -- there's no way out of a project, department, manager, or role, that you want to leave, except out of the firm altogether. Furthermore: in the past, when I've presented my resignation to whoever was my current employer at the time, almost invariably I've seen said employer scrambling to make counter-offers they apparently just wouldn't consider until and unless it was sharply clear to them that the only alternative was having me jump ship (probably to some competitor;-). In fact, sometimes I've accepted such counter-offers (though not always with happy outcomes in the long run, but, that's another story;-).

So, given how you describe your current situation, you MUST look for alternatives elsewhere, either to TAKE those alternatives (which might well be more alluring than whatever you're doing AND earning now, btw;-), or at least to force a counter-offer by your present firm that might well make your situation much better.

It's sad that it can come to that, but, alas, too many firms just don't leave you many other options!-)

Alex Martelli
+1 for "Dysfunctionally Ossified". A new SIP for your next book! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistically_Improbable_Phrases
Robert Harvey
Thank you for some excellent points, although i do not believe the job market is at all rosy here.
CodeByMoonlight
@CodeByMoonlight, sorry, unable to comment w/o knowing where "here" is for you -- and, have you ever considered MOVINZG...?-) @Robert, ayup, statistics 'R us!-)
Alex Martelli
Here is Liverpool, UK, and my rental contract runs until next June. A longer commute is obviously an option, though.
CodeByMoonlight
Alas, I have no applicable recent knowledge of the job market in northern England, if other constraints just FORCE you to leave there. The best friend I have of northern-English origin (York, in his case) moved to Washington, DC, and built a WONDERFUL career there, despite being a UK, not US, citizen (he tried to go back to York a couple times in his career, ended back in DC each time).
Alex Martelli