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I think that most of the advice that comes from 37 Signals is fascinating. I ask this question as i can't help also thinking that the some of the principals will only pull in customers if you have a fan base to call on such as the Ruby On Rails evangilists?

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37 Signals existed before Ruby on Rails was a hit. It may be true that the world looks different from the top. But I think they still throw out a lot of good perspectives on software development processes.

Matthew Vines
I think thats fair comment.
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Is there really very much overlap between Rails evangelists and 37signals' customers?

There are a lot of people out there who need simple web-based collaboration tools but couldn't care less what technology those tools are created with.

RichieHindle
I guess in a way im asking what the overlap here is.
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Maybe not, but they hyped their solutions to their clients and relatives.
Eduardo Molteni
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I think that is there a value in selling simple, but 37s is getting annoyingly arrogant with the attitude: "Your feature request means nothing to us, we know better than you"

Eduardo Molteni
That's the folly of man really. To take a good idea too far until it becomes evangelism, and then your downfall.
Matthew Vines
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I see no causal relationship between creating Ruby on Rails and being able to appeal to paying customers with consciously simple Web sites — particularly because they were successful before Rails was. Rails was a byproduct of their main business, not vice versa.

I would say there is very little logical support for the idea that 37Signals' advice is only applicable if you have created Rails. Whether their advice is good in general is a different question, but this particular objection doesn't seem to have a strong argument behind it.

Chuck
On an interview Jason Fried has explained the benefits of giving away value to customers and explained how they done so for eg use of their blog which gets 100K visits per ?? (whichever time period it is I forget - take it its a lot of visits). He says that they are in a position now to sell to this audience and of their existing customers. Yes he says start ups will have to use traditional marketing and build on the audience/blogs/whatever through time, but most of us wont create an industry buzz, so the back to basics think simple business advice may not be what really worked for 37S is arg
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