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what worked fine is http://kdl.nobugware.com/post/2009/02/17/virtualbox-nat-ssh-guest/ so that i can connect to guest system using ssh with putty

but winscp does not work? what i still have to install? ssh was installed on ubuntu apt-get, but what else... does winscp from vista need more ports? and if how to manage this?!

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just use 127.0.0.1 instead of localhost on the session in winscp , different than putty but it works, why? I dont know :P ...

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