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Hi all,

Before the standard job sites like Monster, cwjobs and the like, which job boards and company websites would you first look at to find an interesting, or even your dream, IT/programming job?

For example, I tend to check the following to see what's available.

  • jobs.joelonsoftware.com
  • BBC (mostly UK) : jobs.bbc.co.uk
  • Microsoft : careers.microsoft.com
  • Google : www.google.com/jobs
  • Guardian Jobs (UK) :jobs.guardian.co.uk

Where do you look? If the site \ company is country-specific, please say so.

+3  A: 

I would suggest staying away from Monster (mostly crap jobs), and from small sites you've never heard of.

For the US, I'm a big fan of Indeed, a meta search engine that searches many other sites.

Uri
A: 

Note that these are all Canadian sites as that is my current location:

There are also government, DICE, and On-line want ads that can also work as starting points. Ask The HeadHunter and Blue Sky Resumes are a couple of US blogs I follow that can also have useful information at times.

JB King
Beware TEK Systems
Don
+3  A: 

I have worked for 4 different companies, and all of them asked me to refer other developers at one time or another. In most cases, we didn't even have positions advertised. I got the strong impression that referrals were the preferred way of finding candidates, and that job boards were only used as a secondary measure.

The point is to make sure to get in touch with former co-workers, managers, friends, etc. as a significant component of any job search.

That being said, I found 2 of my jobs from job boards. One was from Monster.com (about 8 years ago) and another more recent job was from JoelOnSoftware.

ElectricDialect
+5  A: 

As an employer it can be really hard to find the right people.

As noted by others personal referral is by far the best way to get a "dream" job, as the employer already has a good idea that you'll "fit" in the organisation. Skills are only part of the picture, to do well at a job you'll need to have the right personality and relate well with your colleagues.

So, ask around, and get chatty with people who know lots of people. (Hard, I know!)

The way job boards work (at least, in the UK) is that employers will draft a job spec and pass this on to an agency, who in turn edit this and post to the job boards. They also trawl through CVs that have been posted to the board in search of candidates that match.

That's the theory. Here's the practice:

  • Job specs get filtered so much that sometimes they end up meaningless. A manager gives the spec to HR, who re-write it; it then goes to an agency, who may re-write it again. So the spec doesn't really represent what the job means and nobody qualified applies. Everyone loses.

  • Qualified people apply for the job, but their CVs get filtered by a non-technical agency recruiter and a non-technical HR person. The result is that a perfectly decent candidate gets filtered out because they don't have exactly the right acronym on their CV. Everyone loses.

Where I personally find the job boards useful is to get an idea of the decent agencies and the staff there who actually understand there is a person behind the CV. This takes time - several weeks - but if you apply for jobs that match your experience and interest you'll quite probably get a "bite" from an agency on every fifth application, on average.

If you do - talk to the agent and find out what else they have. Then keep talking to them, weekly or so, to see if the situation has changed: quite often you'll find they'll start to talk to you about jobs they've not even posted to the boards.

Note that the major IT job boards in the UK (cwjobs, jobserve, jobsite) send email to recruiters when your CV is updated. So, update it regularly - once a month is about right, I think - and you'll quite possibly find that you get calls for a week or so following the update.

Jeremy McGee
+1  A: 

The google of job search is:

indeed.com

No need to visit 10 other websites to get the same job listing.

Yada
+2  A: 

Have you tried http://web.coop/about/jobs? ;-) Good luck with your search!

Dave
+1  A: 

Not a website, but I've found that going to local user groups for your preferred languages/technologies is a fantastic way to get leads.

Tobias Cohen
+1  A: 

I think after a certain point in your career it is better to target specific companies which you find interesting.
See which companies use your skill-set and then apply to them.

Padmarag