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Inspired by the discussion in this question, a maybe stupid question.

We have all been taught that leaving directories or files on Linux-based web hosting with the permission level of 777 is a bad thing, and to give always as little permissions as necessary.

I am now curious as to where exactly lies the danger of exploitation, specifically in a PHP / Apache context. After all, a PHP script file can be executed from the outside (i.e. through a call to the web server, and subsequently to the interpreter) no matter whether it is marked as "executable", can't it? And the same applies to files called through the command-line php interpreter, right? So where exactly is the vulnerability with 777? Is it the fact that other users on the same machine can access files that are made world writable?

Edit: So many great answers, all with conceivable scenarios, I will have to throw the dice on which one to accept! Thanks everyone for the great input.

+1  A: 

It greatly increases the vulnerability profile of your website to malicious activity because it's only necessary to break into one account.

Anyone that gains access to your system with any login can do whatever they want to your pages, including changing them to read "This website is really insecure so please give me your credit card info."

EDIT: (To clarify and address comments)

Many servers have more than one purpose in life. They run multiple services. If you carefully isolate those services from each other by assigning each a unique user and managing file permissions accordingly, yes, you are still in hot water if someone compromises the credentials for an account, but the damage they can do is limited to that one service. If you just have one generic account and set the whole file system to 777, one compromised account jeopardizes everything on the machine.

If your server is dedicated to only running Apache/PHP and serves no other purpose in life, and there is only one account under which Apache/PHP is being run, having that one account compromised is as good as having the whole machine compromised from the point of view of your application (although you should still have system files protected and non-writable by the account used to run PHP... that should still only be possible for an admin account/root).

If they can write a file, and it is executable, they can change it to something that executes on your machine (executable or script) and then use PHP's shell_exec to run that executable. If you're configured not to allow shell_exec, they can change your configuration as well

Eric J.
@Eric J gains access to my system with what kind of login? A shell login? If somebody from the outside gains access to a shell on my Linux server, it's likely I am already screwed. Is this all there is to `chmod 777`?
Pekka
@Eric J: While valid, if there is a problem with someone having shell access to the machine, aren't there more pressing issues at hand than a random chmod'd 777 directory?
jasonbar
And @Eric J, I am asking about the *execution* bit specifically. Why does it matter security-wise whether any of my web site's contents are flagged *executable*, when they are not executable binaries? That's what I want to understand.
Pekka
@Pekka: If you consistently apply the principal of least access, you will have accounts dedicated to particular purposes and you will restrict those accounts to files related to that purpose. If your server's only purpose is to run PHP, you only have one account for that purpose, the impact is less than if you are running a number of services on the same box, each service has a specific account, and each account is restricted to access files related to that service.
Eric J.
@Eric J. I totally agree. My question here is about the "7" bit specifically, because I see people getting their (PHP based) sites compromised and others replying "well duh, you had chmod 777 here and there, no wonder you were getting hacked." I want to understand what there is to that specifically - that applying least access is the only way to go is beyond question.
Pekka
@Pekka: If they can write your file, and it is executable, they can change it to something that executes on your machine (executable or script) and then use PHP's shell_exec to run that executable. If you're configured not to allow shell_exec, they can change your configuration as well.
Eric J.
@Eric good point, makes sense.
Pekka
+4  A: 

Here's one scenario:

  1. You have an unprotected directory that users can upload to.
  2. They upload two files: a shell script, and a php file that has a system() call in it to the shell script.
  3. they access the php script they just uploaded by visiting the url in their browser, causing the shell script to execute.

If this directory is 777, that means that anybody (including the user apache, which is what php script will execute as) can execute it! If the execute bit is not set on that directory and presumably the files inside the directory, then step 3 above would do nothing.

edit from the comments: it's not the PHP file's permissions that matter, it's the system() call inside the PHP file that will be executed as a linux system call by the linux user apache (or whatever you have apache set to run as), and that is PRECISELY where the execution bit matters.

Mike Sherov
@Mike this makes sense, *but* do I need the executable bit set to run a PHP file? I can't test it right now but I would think not, wouldn't read rights for Apache/PHP be enough to run the file?
Pekka
no, it's not the PHP file's permissions that matter, it's the system() call inside the PHP file that will be executed as a linux system call, and that is PRECISELY where the execution bit matters.
Mike Sherov
@Mike aaah I see, this makes sense. Cheers!
Pekka
@Mike Sherov: Yep.
Eric J.
The other answers are correct about any user on the system being able to modify source code and this being bad. More frightening however is that since apache can also modify files and that means a few web application flaws could allow attacker on the internet (assuming site is public) to own the server - they can have their own code running on the server taking over your infrastructure and also on any of your site's visitor's browsers. I may be biased for I have seen exactly this happen.
mar
+1  A: 

There are many good general reasons to follow minimalism when it comes to permissions, but in the context of a LAMP webhost, the few that come readily to mind are

  • On a shared hosting platform, other users sharing your host can now read and write to your scripts.
  • On a dedicated host, rouge processes can read/write and accidentally delete your files. Lets say there is a custom logging process running in the background as user nobody which has a bug that results in it trying to rm -rf /. Now generally this will be harmless because there would hardly be any file that nobody should have write permissions on but this rouge process will now take your files with it.
  • To deface your website, someone needs to only gain access as any user, even say nobody or some such dummy account. Generally, the attacker would have to do a further user level escalation attack to get to the place where he can do some damage. This is a real threat. Some non-critical services may be running under dummy accounts and might contain a vulnerability.
anshul
+1 Very good points, cheers.
Pekka
+1  A: 

unix permissions are not about web "users", in fact, someone who visits your website is not a "user" from system's point of view. Yes, permissions are needed to protect your stuff from other users and, more important, other processes running on the same machine. For example, if someone manages to hack into your ftp server and your web dirs have 777, the malicious code injected into ftp process can also modify your web files.

stereofrog
@stereofrog cheers, I am familiar with the basics of Linux users :) The fact that a web server has nothing to do with actual "users" is what got me curious here. Now hacking into the FTP server makes sense, I can see how it could be possible to access a file that way that is not associated with the user's account.
Pekka