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TiddlyWiki is a great idea, brilliantly implemented. I'm using it as a portable personal "knowledge manager," and these are the prize virtues:

  1. It travels on my USB flash memory stick and runs on any computer, regardless of operating system
  2. No software installation is needed on the computer (TiddlyWiki merely uses the Internet browser)
  3. No Internet connection is needed
  4. In terms of data retrieval functionality, it mimics a relational database (use of tags and internal links)

Let's say I've got a million words of prose in 4,000 tiddlers (posts). I'm still testing, but it looks like TiddlyWiki gets very slow.

Is there an app like TiddlyWiki that keeps all the virtues I listed above, and allows more storage? (or rather, retrieval!)

NOTE: Separation of content and presentation would be ideal. It's nifty that TiddlyWiki has everything in a single HTML document, but it's unhelpful in many ways. I don't care if a directory of assorted docs is needed (SQLite, XML?), as long as it's functionally self-contained.

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You could try installing Portable Apps on your USB drive and adding the XAMPP Package which has Apache, PHP, MySQL all installed and running MediaWiki or other Wiki software on top of it.

Mike Keller
That seems kinda top-heavy. But in reality, I prolly need to get over considering that kinda top-heavy. I have one question. After poking around on PortableApps/XAMPP, I'm not sure how it runs on Linux. XAMPP requires Wine? (Another thing I should stop considering top-heavy, maybe.) Do you have insight on that?
Smandoli
I'm sorry I didn't realize that version used Wine to run. If you want something that runs native to Windows there is a version on the [XAMPP][1] website. The Lite version should be more than enough and if I remember correctly you should be able to install everything right on your USB stick and skip the PortableApps and WINE pieces. I only suggested PortableApps for ease of installation. [1]: http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-windows.html#646 "XAMPP Lite"
Mike Keller
I've got my flash drive loaded up. I hope to give it a try tonight. One challenge is picking a wiki app -- MediaWiki looks heavy, over-powered for my purpose.
Smandoli
No attempt made yet to configure and run this, sorry.
Smandoli
No worries I'm just anxious to see if the solution works best for you and if not what solution does.
Mike Keller
+1  A: 

Before creating Rails, David Heinemeier Hansson wrote a wiki app called Instiki. Like TiddlyWiki, you don't run it from a separately running server*, so it's easy to run locally and move around on a USB drive (exporting the entire content to a zip file with all the html files or all the files in Textile markup). The entire Instiki tgz download is less than 5mb and the app has only one external dependency: Ruby.

So you can run Instiki anywhere you can run Ruby (for instance, on a Nokia N900 phone).

I never built any Instiki sites as large as you describe, but it ought to handle 1 million words in 4,000 pages a lot easier than TiddlyWiki handles 4,000 tiddlers.

Roger_S

* Oh, not to confuse anyone: Instiki uses the embedded webserver WEBrick

Roger_S
So far no luck getting Ruby/Instiki up on either Win XP or Ubuntu. Seems to be the Ruby install that is stuck. Closest I've gotten is the Browser Error 500 "Do you smell smoke?" on the XP. Funny message, but clearing the cache and tweaking the ruby config file haven't made it go away.
Smandoli
You could check the Instiki site that Jackues Distler is hosting — http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/wiki/instiki/show/HomePage — and see if it has information that might get you running.
Roger_S
Thanks, I had found that one. I'm pushing my experiment along on TiddlyWiki for now. It's the Bible "on-a-stick." The TW interface is stressed (big columns of tags and tiddlers), but it functions just fine.
Smandoli
+1  A: 

After some time and serious consideration, I will post my own answer.
There is nothing that matches TiddlyWiki, especially if you add a criterion #5:

Set up and configuration are so simple as to be almost zero. This would also mean dependencies are so minimal as to be transparent, or nearly so.

As for voluminous information, TW can pretty much handle it. (My early discouragements were due to malformed code.) Difficulty accessing information through the interface becomes an issue before any speed problems. This isn't to fault the interface -- it could be more powerful, but that would sacrifice lightness.

Obviously my question could have been better -- sorry about that. I'm not trying to be self-serving here; it's just that if I were a seeker after this information, this is the answer I would want to find. Until a better one comes, of course.

Smandoli
A: 

http://tiddlyweb.peermore.com/wiki/ maybe exactly what you are looking for.

You can use any TiddlyWiki variant and the data can be delivered via a server and on-demand.

Michel
A: 

I have recently discovered DokuWikiStick which runs a version of MicroApache. Recommended by LifeHacker... Starting size is about 10MB.

Philip
Although to be fair, this is a Windows version, however, there is likely to be a linux one available. Still not quite as easy as TiddlyWiki, IMO.
Philip