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I have a simple webform that will allow unauthenticated users to input their information, including name. I gave the name field a limit of 50 characters to coincide with my database table where the field is varchar(50), but then I started to wonder.

Is it more appropriate to use something like the Text column type or should I limit the length of the name to something reasonable?

I'm using SQL Server 2005, in case that matters in your response.

EDIT: I did not see this broader question regarding similar issues.

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We use 50.

Dana
+3  A: 

If it's full name in one field, I usually go with 128 - 64/64 for first and last in separate fields - you just never know.

Greg Hurlman
+4  A: 

I usually go with varchar(255) (255 being the maximum length of a varchar type in MySQL).

pix0r
+2  A: 

Check this related question for lots of discussion on the subject.

Chris Marasti-Georg
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The average first name is about 6 letters. That leaves 43 for a last name. :) Seems like you could probably shorten it if you like.

The main question is how many rows do you think you will have? I don't think varchar(50) is going to kill you until you get several million rows.

Craig
If you have 50 million values between 10 and 15 characters in a varchar(20) column, and the same 50 million values in a varchar(50) column, they will take up exactly the same space. That's the whole point of varchar, as opposed to char.
Tao
+11  A: 

UK Government Data Standards Catalogue suggests 35 characters for each of Given Name and Family Name, or 70 characters for a single field to hold the Full Name.

Ian Nelson
The link needs to be updated as of Oct 22, 2010. I googled for: site:*.gov.uk Name "35 characters" and found this doc https://www.justice.gov.uk/guidance/docs/electoral-reg-standards.pdf
Tony R
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The number of rows raises a good point. I expect to have about 50 rows total. So, in this case, it doesn't really matter if I want to use 255, even.

In general, I'd probably stick with a safe 128.

EndangeredMassa
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@Ian Nelson: I'm wondering if others see the problem there.

Let's say you have split fields. That's 70 characters total, 35 for first name and 35 for last name. However, if you have one field, you neglect the space that separates first and last names, short changing you by 1 character. Sure, it's "only" one character, but that could make the difference between someone entering their full name and someone not. Therefore, I would change that suggestion to "35 characters for each of Given Name and Family Name, or 71 characters for a single field to hold the Full Name".

Thomas Owens
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Note that many cultures have 'second surnames' often called family names. For example, if you are dealing with Spanish people, they will appreciate having a family name separated from their 'surname'.

Best bet is to define a data type for the name components, use those for a data type for the surname and tweak depending on locale.

ColinYounger
There's no advantage to making the limits smaller in locales that statistically have smaller values - the size of the field does not affect the space taken, unless some values actually take up those extra allowed characters (and then that means you made the right choice anyway)!
Tao
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What you're really asking is a related, but substantially different question: how often do I want to truncate names in order to fit them in the database? The answer depends both on the frequency of different lengths of names as well as the maximum lengths chosen. This concern is balanced by the concerns about resources used by the database. Considering how little overhead difference there is between different max lengths for a varchar field I'd generally err on the side of never being forced to truncate a name and make the field as large as I dared.

Wedge
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I know I'm late on this one, but I'll add this comment anyway, as others may well come here in the future with similar questions.

Beware of tweaking column sizes dependent on locale. For a start, it sets you up for a maintenance nightmare, leaving aside the fact that people migrate, and take their names with them.

For example, Spanish people with those extra surnames can move to and live in an English-speaking country, and can reasonably expect their full name to be used. Russians have patronymics in addition to their surnames, some African names can be considerably longer than most European names.

Go with making each column as wide as you can reasonably do, taking into account the potential row count. I use 40 characters each for first name, other given names and surname and have never found any problems.

Thanks for the answer, even if it has been a while.
EndangeredMassa