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I have a list of items as a part of a web application. The question is how user could manipulate the order of items in the list (not the list sort order). The typical way is to use arrow buttons to move items up or down. The other way is the drag-and-drop.

But are there any other ways for a user interface for list reordering?

+4  A: 

Sorting, by clicking on headers is very popular. Perhaps only considered as a reordering of the view of the actual list, though.

unwind
sorry, my original question wasn't clear enough. I am looking for manual reordering ways, not sort order selection.
Petteri Hietavirta
+2  A: 

You could also use arrow keys to move up and down.

ck
select an item then move it with left/right keys
NTulip
+5  A: 

Another way is to provide a small text input next to every item, so the user can enter a numerical ordering themselves; then they click a button to reorder it all at once. (I've only seen this used on sites that store the order of items, such as Netflix queue or Livejournal links.)

Daniel Lew
+10  A: 

We've found that drag and drop can be counter intuitive for non-technical people. We have explored the Up Down Arrow which works but can also be cumbersome as you need to keep clicking up and down and it results in a lot of traffic.

Another paradigm we've explored is the Move button so each item in a list has a Move Item button when you click it new buttons are added before and after each item in the list to let you move the item to any location.

This works well when each item in the list takes a lot of space, if each list item is only a single row it can result in a cluttered interface. In our case each item was half a dozen lines of text or more. We also have add item here button before / after each item to allow insertion.

Survey Monkey uses this paradigm as well and inspired some of what we do.

JoshBerke
Would you say the drag and drop approach works well enough for single line lists?
sanchothefat
I personally love drag and drop but non-technical users have trouble with it. I've written software for Auto Mechanics and Construction workers and while the younger folks who grew up with computers understood drag and drop, the older folks couldn't do it.
JoshBerke
Stefan Koenig
A: 

You can show 'Up' and 'Delete' buttons just the way Google does for SearchWiki. Most of the people have at least some experience with it now. Most people bother only with 'Upping' their choice. If they do not like a thing, and want to downvote it, removing from the list with help of the abovementioned 'Delete' button will be easier for them

Varun Mahajan
+3  A: 

Implement a copy/paste style function? This would mean you can take an item out of the list, and then select another item, and click "paste" or CTRL+V. This is quite intuitive and would allow large lists to be manipulated easily.

You could implement multi-selection easily to move a large block of adjacent items.

Network traffic would be low (only one or two requests).

You need to make sure the "paste" is consistent. I.e. pasting always inserts above the selected item.

Take a look at Checkvist for more inspiration.

Neil Barnwell
+5  A: 

Some thoughts - Very much on the ideas rather than implementation end though...

1 - Provide both up and down arrows and drag and drop, and monitor which is more popular, which type of users use which etc, then tailor from there once you have some data

2 - Add a "random" button which generates the order randomly - could be useless, could be fun depending on your app

3 - Add a "display order" field by the side of each item and allow the user to manipulate it (but make sure that you have some code to auto update the rest of the numbers when one changes) personally I think this could be very confusing, but for some users it might work

4 - Instead of drag and drop in place, have users drag to a new list

5 - For a very simple version, have a "favourite" check box, and then have the list just show the favourites first, (in alphabetical order or something)

6 - Have groups - you assign a group number to an item, all the group ones appear first, followed by group 2 etc

Hope this random rambling has been useful, if i think of anything more I'll come back...

Rob Y
+21  A: 

There are two other sorting methods (besides those you mentioned) I've seen which work pretty well.

Click To Move

The method used for ordering items in the Gallery web photo album works pretty well for ordering photos, and it should work just as well for any set that can be represented as a sorted group of clickable elements:

  • Present your list of items as clickable elements.
  • Clicking an element "selects" it, it is highlighted to indicate it's selected.
  • Clicking another item moves the selected item to a position just before the clicked item.
  • Repeat until all items are in the desired order.
  • A dummy item is shown at the end of the list for moving items to the end.

This is slightly easier to use than drag-n-drop as it requires less dexterity, and you don't have to hold down the mouse button while you figure out where you want to "drop" the item.

The method could easily be extended to allow selection of multiple items (via shift-click or similar) which could then be placed in a new position in the same way.

Provide Order Numbers

Used by Netflix and some internal apps I've worked with. This works best if your users have a concrete idea of exactly what the numeric order should be (used when working with lists of instruction steps in our internal app).

  • Present your list of items one per line.
  • Provide a text entry box next to each item where the order number is displayed, starting with 1.
  • The user changes the order numbers in the text fields as desired.
  • If multiple items are given the same order number, they are placed next to each other.
  • Provide a button to "apply" the sort in JavaScript so that the user doesn't have to submit the entire page to see the re-arranged list. This makes it easy to work in increments.

Edit: A couple of additional thoughts on Drag-and-Drop. You might have used these before or not, but there are a few things that can make drag-and-drop more forgiving and easier to use:

  • Highlight the area where the item will appear when dropped. For example, show a prominent horizontal line between the two existing items where the item will be inserted if it is dropped.
  • Ghost the draggable item as it is dragged so that it's obvious what's being moved, rather than using a generic "dragging" cursor. This works best if the items being dragged are still legible if shown on top of one another with transparency.
  • Make sure the target areas where the draggable can be dropped are sufficiently large. Larger areas can be helpful for people who have trouble with the required coordination.
Adam Bellaire
As an example of the Order Numbers method, create a playlist in YouTube and then look at how it allows you to reorder items.
Sam Hasler
+5  A: 

1) A variation of Click to Move would involve having a separate target list, where the user selects the slot into which their item will move, then clicks on the original item to move it.

For example, in the following diagram, the user has already put 'E' at the head of the reordered list and has selected slot three for their next choice. Their next step would be to choose which item from the old list goes into slot three on the new list. (The row of asterisks is a feeble attempt to show that slot three is highlighted or selected.)

  old       new
 -----     -----
|  A  |   |  E  |
|  D  |   |     |
|  C  |   |*****|
|     |   |     |
|  B  |   |     |
 -----     -----

Clicking on an item in the new list selects it and highlights its original slot in the old list, which is now a target. Clicking on the item a second time returns it to that original slot.

The new list should also display indicators of some sort to show that it has selectable regions, perhaps unobtrusive (low-opacity) numbered buttons in its slots or some other informative affordance.

2) Another approach would be to allow users to draw lines between the original and desired positions.

Whatever method is chosen, the process need not be chatty: there's no reason this couldn't all be done client side (with the option to save and commit changes to the server).

Jeff Sternal
Probably need to make sure that the user has an option to change his mind and get items away from the second list. I really like this approach.
shoosh
Thank you! I'll clarify the process I intended to be used for this, and improve it while I'm at it.
Jeff Sternal
A: 

You could show an overlay when hovering over an element. This overlay shows you 4 arrows (n/e/s/w) and u can click and move the element accordingly.

If you are trying to oder items across a grid like facebook's and picasaweb's photo grouping features, then that is about the only way to handle that

if you had 3 columns each with a list of items, clicking on any of the items would move the item either to the left or right, middle column could show option for left or right. you could still allow for dragging and dropping or sorting using the typical functionality for that.

NTulip
+2  A: 

To me, performing a drag and drop of list elements in place (i.e. within the list itself) is the best approach.

Not only you can give to your users the immediate idea of what their list will look like (the list is reorganizing before their eyes), but it's also very easy for them to understand the moving mechanism. And this is the briefest way to have your users ordering the list in the shortest number of moves.

By the way, foreseeing that a list could be longer than few elements, alongside the DnD method you could provide an asynchronous way to order the list: give the user the ability to attribute an ordering number to each entry, and then click on the "Order" button. Handling in a smart and correct way user's input, this could result in a speed up for longer lists editing.

Scarlet
+1  A: 

I was thinking of "Move selected to here":

  1. Let all items be selectable by checkboxes
  2. Let all items have a button or icon meaning "Move selected to here"
  3. When "Move selected to here" is clicked, all selected items are moved to this item in existing order

The edge-cases here are when the items should be moved to either end of the list. One way to solve that, is to move all selected items before the target, and reserve a special button/icon at the end to move the selection there.

Thomas Eyde
+3  A: 

You can experiment with drag-and-drop using the examples of jQuery UI Sortables. To make it obvious for the non-technical or new users you could use visual cues such as handles or arrows and maybe a tooltip on hover to suggest dragging the element.

You could even provide an animated gif demonstrating the gesture.

As soon as a user learns how to do this I think it's the easiest method of ordering a list.

dimitrisp
+1  A: 

I actually think the iphone / itouch does this really well when moving application icons.

If you haven't seen it look here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnXoGnUU6uI

The 'shaking' icons are a very good visual cue that something is moveable/draggable.

So I would suggest this approach with drag an drop. Clicking and holding on an item could put it in 'moveable-mode' and this would be indicated by it shaking (or some easier to code visual cue). Then drag and drop would work in the normal way.

Implementing this in javascript is of course the challenge...

Also another thing to think about - most people make the mistake of conflating usability with learnability. Think who the users of this app are (will they use it regularly and be taught how to use it, or are they public web users who may use it infrequently and not be taught how to use it) - it might give you a different answer to what the solution should be.

DanSingerman
Looks fun but 50 rows wiggling could be a bit too much :-)
Petteri Hietavirta
In a long list I'd just make the 'active' row the wiggling one.
DanSingerman