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What is better between JSP and velocity in - Performance - Ease of use - Ease of creating reusable components - Availability of open source 3rd parties - IDE support

+7  A: 

Velocity or even better FreeMarker. In JSP you cannot have runtime dispatch for pojo hierarchies and everything is statically typed which is a pain. Moreover if you create many JSP2.0 custom tags (say more than 100-150) then your development-deployment cycle will slow down heavily due to inefficiencies of Jasper to resolve dependencies efficiently.

On the other hand JSP has great tool support.

slow JSP compilation references:

http://www.mailinglistarchive.com/[email protected]/msg10786.html

http://marc.info/?l=tomcat-dev&m=119377083422720&w=2

cherouvim
i've always wondered why freemarker is considered better than velocity - to me they seem to do exactly the same thing! I havent used velocity before, but I have seen it in bits. I've used freemarker, and i have to say its pretty easy to use. But i expected velocity to be similar, thus my wondering.
Chii
FreeMarker is more advanced and it can go to more low level than Velocity, and with great power comes great responsibility ;) http://freemarker.org/fmVsVel.html
cherouvim
+2  A: 

I'll focus on using a template engine, because that is what I have most experience with.

It depends on what you really want to do. Servlets in combination with Velocity (or FreeMarker for that matter) offer a very good seperation of logic and presentation. Templates are harder to test, because you would need to evaluate the template to be able to judge wheter the HTML (or whatever else the output format is) is correct. For JSP this can be done in your IDE of choice.

The big advantage of templates is that you can store these completely outside of your application and even update them while your application is running. This is something that is a little harder to do with JSP, although hot deployment comes pretty close.

Reusable components can be created by using the include functionality of the template engine.

Jeroen van Bergen
+7  A: 

Advantages of Velocity:

  • strict separation of view from business logic
  • simple syntax that can be understood by graphic designers
vartec
+9  A: 

@Vartec: I don't think that the "strict separation of view from business logic" is a velocity feature that is not present in jsp. You can do business logic in jsp (more or less) but it's not recommended at all. But I agree in your point regarding the syntax.

Performance

JSP is compiled to Java, so I don't think that velocity is faster. (have not done benchmarks myself)

Ease of use

For designers: velocity For programmers: (IMHO) jsp, because it's closer to code

Ease of creating reusable components

JSP has lots of components Velocity has no components itself (not component oriented)

Availability of open source 3rd parties

I have seen far more projects using JSP or JSP related technologies than velocity. Maybe because velocity is really low level... :-)

IDE support

There are plenty of tools for jsp. Especially the eclipse jboss plugin/tool suite has a good jsp editor.

Plugins for Velocity are mostly not functional or pretty basic (you get lucky if you have syntax highlighting)

Patrick Cornelissen
+1  A: 

I don't know whether Velocity can be able to compete with JSP in all aspects but Velocity is faster and nuch easier.Efficiency of Velocity is 35 to 45% more if it is complicated webpages it may be reduced but still it is 5% more than JSP.

Rajesh Chowdary
If you mean Velocity is faster to work with then OK but Velocity is NOT faster than JSP. Velocity merges the html string with the data while JSP sends html directly down the writer.If you add logging times around velocity's mergerTemplate call you'll see what I mean.
Dan Howard