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I've been trying to understand what's the optimal way to do Ajax in Django. By reading stuff here and there I gathered that the common process is:

  1. formulate your Ajax call using some JavaScript library (e.g., jQuery), set up a URL pattern in Django that catches the call and passes it to a view function

  2. in the Python view function retrieve the objects you are interested in and send them back to the client in JSON format or similar (by using the built in serializer module, or simplejson)

  3. define a callback function in JavaScript that receives the JSON data and parses them, so to create whatever HTML is needed to be displayed. Finally, the JavaScript script puts the HTML wherever it should stay.

Now, what I still don't get is how are Django templates related to all of this? Apparently, we're not making use of the power of templates at all. Ideally, I thought it'd be nice to pass back a JSON object and a template name, so that the data could be iterated over and an HTML block is created. But maybe I'm totally wrong here...

The only resource I found that goes in this direction is this snippet (769) but I haven't tried it yet. Obviously, what's going to happen in this case is that all the resulting HTML is created on the server side, then passed to the client. The JavaScript-callback function only has to display it in the right place.

Does this cause performance problems? If not, even without using the snippet above, why not formatting the HTML directly in the backend using Python instead of the front-end?

Many thanks!

UPDATE: please use snippet 942 because it is an enhanced version of the one above! I found that the inheritance support works much better this way..

+4  A: 

When you are doing Ajax I don't think you have any use for templates. Template is there so that you can generate dynamic HTML on the server side easily and hence it provides few programming hooks inside HTML.

In case of Ajax you are passing JSON data and you can format it as you want in Python. and HTML/document elements will be generated on client side using the JSON by some JavaScript library e.g. jQuery on client side.

Maybe if you have a very specific case of replacing some inner HTML from server side HTML then maybe you can use templates but in that case why you would need JSON? You can just query the HTML page via Ajax and change inner or outer or whatever HTML.

Anurag Uniyal
thanks for the answer - yes you're right I was referring to the case when you have to replace some inner HTML from server side (e.g. a long list of data presented in repetitive structures, somthing like a table) - and in such a case JSON is not needed at all if I decide to construct my HTML in the application back end. I was just wondering if by doing so the application would be slower than creating the HTML using javascript on the client.
magicrebirth
I don't see any performance different either way.
Anurag Uniyal
i cant see any performance problems to. If you render out with a template or write out a json file shouldn't matter much
vikingosegundo
A: 

Templates are for the purpose of presentation. Responding with data in format X (JSON, JSONP, XML, YAML, *ml, etc.) is not presentation, so you don't need templates. Just serialize your data into format X and return it in an HttpResponse.

Justice
Hi, thanks for the answer. Ok it is clear to me that templates are for presentation purposes - and that's exactly why I would like to use them also for ajax calls. The data I'm getting from the back end in whatever format are either already 'presentable', or they must be formatted in your js code.In my case, I need to ajax-update a long list of data within an html structure which is not trivial - and a django template works great in abstracting this repeating html structure. So I'm better off using a template in the back end and pass an html block.. hope it's clearer now..
magicrebirth
+4  A: 

There's no reason you can't return a rendered bit of HTML using Ajax, and insert that into the existing page at the point you want. Obviously you can use Django's templates to render this HTML, if you want.

Daniel Roseman
I do this, as it allows my to use the same templates with and without ajax. just include a sub-template in ur template and use this template sever-side to render the response, that will replace the originally delivered part.
vikingosegundo
I added an example as answer
vikingosegundo
+3  A: 

Here is how I use the same template for traditional rendering and Ajax-response rendering.

Template:

<div  id="sortable">

{% include "admin/app/model/subtemplate.html" %}
</div>

Included template (aka: subtemplate):

<div id="results_listing">
{% if results %}
    {% for c in results %}
        .....
    {% endfor %}
{% else %}

The Ajax-view:

@login_required
@render_to('admin/app/model/subtemplate.html')#annoying-decorator
def ajax_view(request):
    .....

    return { 
        "results":Model.objects.all(),
    }

Of course you can use render_to_response. But I like those annoying decorators :D

vikingosegundo
Nice example. And you might want to check request.is_ajax() to ensure that you're not trying to access the view from a normal request.
Daniel Roseman
+4  A: 

Hey thanks vikingosegundo!

I like using decorators too :-). But in the meanwhile I've been following the approach suggested by the snippet I was mentioning above. Only thing, use instead the snippet n. 942 cause it's an improved version of the original one. Here's how it works:

Imagine you have a template (e.g., 'subtemplate.html') of whatever size that contains a useful block you can reuse:

     ........
 <div id="results">   
  {% block results %}
   {% for el in items %}
             <li>{{el|capfirst}}</li>
   {% endfor %}
  {% endblock %}  
 </div><br />
     ........

By importing in your view file the snippet above you can easily reference to any block in your templates. A cool feature is that the inheritance relations among templates are taken into consideration, so if you reference to a block that includes another block and so on, everything should work just fine. So, the ajax-view looks like this:

from django.template import loader
# downloaded from djangosnippets.com[942]
from my_project.snippets.template import render_block_to_string

def ajax_view(request):
    # some random context
    context = Context({'items': range(100)})
    # passing the template_name + block_name + context
    return_str = render_block_to_string('standard/subtemplate.html', 'results', context)
    return HttpResponse(return_str)
magicrebirth
A: 

Unfortunately, Django templates are designed to be executed server side only. There is at least one project to render Django templates using Javascript, but I haven't used it and so I don't know how fast, well supported or up to date it is. Other than this, you have to either use the Django templates on the server or generate dynamic elements on the client without using templates.

Casebash
A: 

While templates are indeed just for presentation purposes, it shouldn't matter if you are doing it on the serverside or client side. It all comes down to separating the control logic that is performing an action, from the view logic that is just responsible for creating the markup. If your javascript control logic is having to handle how you are rendering or displaying the HTML, then you might be doing it wrong, but if you isolate that rendering logic to another object or function, and just passing it the data necessary for the render, then you should be fine; it mirrors how we separate our controllers, models and views on the server side.

Take a look at the github project: http://github.com/comolongo/Yz-Javascript-Django-Template-Compiler

It compiles django templates into optimized javascript functions that will generate your presentation html with data that you pass it. The compiled functions are in pure javascript, so there are no dependencies on other libraries. Since the templates are compiled instead of being parsed at runtime, the strings and variables are all already placed into javascript strings that just need to be concatenated, so you get a huge speed increase compared to techniques that require you to do dom manipulation or script parsing to get the final presentation. Right now only the basic tags and filters are there, but should be enough for most things, and more tags will be added as people start making requests for them or start contributing to the project.

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