I tried to use WTL, but i couldn't make it to work on VS2008 Express, there is any other option? I would like to test if any, before recur to the plain API :/
need to be small and have no external dependencies
Thanks in advance!
I wouldn't exactly call it "small" though.
Billy ONeal
2010-05-08 02:41:18
Smaller than Qt and very complete still!
LukeN
2010-05-08 19:10:36
Complete... but a pain on Windows.
George Edison
2010-05-08 19:10:38
A:
I would suggest Qt as opposed to Gtk...see http://www.wikivs.com/wiki/GTK_vs_Qt
However, I'm unsure of size.
foxwoods
2010-05-08 03:22:30
both GTK and QT are great libraries, but not small and huge dependencies for simple applications
arthurprs
2010-05-08 18:58:46
-1 Qt is **huge**! On Windows, you need to bundle almost 30 MB of shared libraries.
George Edison
2010-05-08 19:09:19
@George: You don't need to, depending on what you are doing. If i remember correctly i got it down to about ~3MB of static libraries for a simple GUI/Network usecase.
Georg Fritzsche
2010-05-09 17:37:31
@gf: Dude, please tell me how - because 30 MB was the lowest I could get it.
George Edison
2010-05-09 18:58:31
@George: Make your own build, use only the modules you absolutely require and deactivate every option that isn't required by your app - e.g. all those image codecs.
Georg Fritzsche
2010-05-09 19:23:43
just to point out.....I never claimed I knew the size, easy up folks. Thanks for the heads up though.
foxwoods
2010-05-11 05:55:39
+1
A:
There's a similar question here. WTL is mentioned (perhaps the problem you're running into can be resolved if you provide details), as is Delphi, Visual Basic 6, and others.
jdigital
2010-05-08 05:09:08
At the moment i'm using Delphi + KOL library, but the current code is a complete mess, so, i need to rewrite it or find alternatives before moving forward.
arthurprs
2010-05-08 18:55:42
+1
A:
Is there something wrong with Win32 common controls? Or maybe MFC?
Daniel Paull
2010-05-08 06:06:19
It's definitely not easy to write application with the plain Win32 API :/
arthurprs
2010-05-08 18:57:47
**Wrong!** I started out writing plain-old Win32 API programs. There is nothing wrong with it.
George Edison
2010-05-08 19:11:21
come on, compare it to Glade, MFC, VCL, it's an abuse to call it easy..
arthurprs
2010-05-08 21:17:40
@arthurprs: I've never used any of those, so I can't compare them... but I still think a fundamental understanding of the Windows API is valuable even if you don't ever use it directly.
George Edison
2010-05-08 22:05:37
i know the api, but i don't like to spend 1hour on tasks when i can spend just a few minutes
arthurprs
2010-05-08 23:35:08
I just think the either Win32 or MFC will best meet your requirement for it "to be small and have no external dependencies". I hadn't realised you wanted it to be easy to use too... Raw Win32 is just fine for small application. MFC should serve you well for larger jobs.
Daniel Paull
2010-05-09 06:39:25
+3
A:
wxWidgets is worth a look. It's relatively small compared to say Qt, GTK and is free, open-source and has a decent set of docs, examples and reasonable community support.
It's self-contained on Windows
zebrabox
2010-05-08 19:00:32
@George Edison - yep it's very nice. Also runs on Unix, OS-X and has bindings for Python etc :)
zebrabox
2010-05-08 19:25:01
@zebrabox: I use it on Windows and Linux (via the GTK port). It works great for minimizing platform-specific issues.
George Edison
2010-05-08 19:45:41
+2
A:
If you need really small for embedded systems take a look at FLTK. http://www.fltk.org/
Jay
2010-05-08 19:04:48