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I'm not a security expert by any means, but I favor creating REST-style web services.

In creating a new service which needs to have the data it transmits secure. We've entered a debate over which approach is more secure - REST with HTTPS or a SOAP WS with WS-Security.

I am under the impression we could use HTTPS for all the web service calls and this approach would be secure. The way I look at it is, "if HTTPS is good enough for bank and financial web sites, it's good enough for me". Again, I'm not expert in this space, but I'd think that these people have thought considerably hard about this problem and are comfortable with HTTPS.

A coworker disagrees and says SOAP and WS-Security is the only way to go.

The web seems all over the board on this.

Maybe the community here could weigh in on the pros and cons of each? Thanks!

+3  A: 

See the wiki article:

In point-to-point situations confidentiality and data integrity can also be enforced on Web services through the use of Transport Layer Security (TLS), for example, by sending messages over https. WS-Security however addresses the wider problem of maintaining integrity and confidentiality of messages until after a message was sent from the originating node, providing so called end to end security.

That is:

  • HTTPS is a transport layer (point-to-point) security mechanism
  • WS-Security is an application layer (end-to-end) security mechanism.
toolkit
+2  A: 

Technically, the way you have it worded, neither is correct, because the SOAP method's communication isn't secure, and the REST method didn't say anything about authenticating legitimate users.

HTTPS prevents attackers from ease dropping on the communication between two systems. It also verifies that the host system (server) is actually the host system the user intends to access.

WS-Security prevents unauthorized applications (users) from accessing the system.

If a RESTful system has a way of authenticating users and a SOAP application with WS-Security is using HTTPS, then really both are secure. It's just a different way of presenting and accessing data.

Kevin
+8  A: 

HTTPS secures the transmission of the message over the network and provides some assurance to the client about the identity of the server. This is what's important to your bank or online stock broker. Their interest in authenticating the client is not in the identity of the computer, but in your identity. So card numbers, user names, passwords etc. are used to authenticate you. Some precautions are then usually taken to ensure that submissions haven't been tampered with, but on the whole whatever happens over in the session is regarded as having been initiated by you.

WS-Security offers confidentiality and integrity protection from the creation of the message to it's consumption. So instead of ensuring that the content of the communications can only be read by the right server it ensures that it can only be read by the right process on the server. Instead of assuming that all the communications in the securely initiated session are from the authenticated user each one has to be signed.

There's an amusing explanation involving naked motorcyclists here:

http://blogs.msdn.com/vbertocci/archive/2005/04/25/end-to-end-security-or-why-you-shouldn-t-drive-your-motorcycle-naked.aspx

So WS-Security offers more protection than HTTPS would, and SOAP offers a richer API than REST. My opinion is that unless you really need the additional features or protection you should skip the overhead of SOAP and WS-Security. I know it's a bit of a cop-out but the decisions about how much protection is actually justified (not just what would be cool to build) need to be made by those who know the problem intimately.

Bell
An extra point - Transmission security requires authentication of transmission initiator. For example, no good having SSH if everyone knows the password. Multi-layer security is vital in distributed applications. Think Identity, Integrity, Accountability
Aiden Bell
I saw an interesting mix the other day. A large, F500 customer of ours is using a mix of REST and SOAP (REST for read-only data access, SOAP for the rest) and in order to avoid using different security schemes has decided to use WS-Sec for both. They are doing this by putting the WS-Sec header information into the HTTP headers for the REST calls. Their security intermediary knows how to pull them out of either location to do the checks. First time I had seen this approach.
sfitts
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I don't yet have the rep needed to add a comment or I would have just added this to Bell's answer. I think Bell did a very good job of summing up the top level pros and cons of the two approaches. Just a few other factors that you might want to consider:

1) Do the requests between your clients and your service need to go through intermediaries that require access to the payload? If so then WS-Security might be a better fit.

2) It is actually possible to use SSL to provide the server with assurance as to the clients identity using a feature called mutual authentication. However, this doesn't get much use outside of some very specialized scenarios due to the complexity of configuring it. So Bell is right that WS-Sec is a much better fit here.

3) SSL in general can be a bit of a bear to setup and maintain (even in the simpler configuration) due largely to certificate management issues. Having someone who knows how to do this for your platform will be a big plus.

4) If you might need to do some form of credential mapping or identity federation then WS-Sec might be worth the overhead. Not that you can't do this with REST, you just have less structure to help you.

5) Getting all the WS-Security goop into the right places on the client side of things can be more of a pain than you would think it should.

In the end though it really does depend on a lot of things we're not likely to know. For most situations I would say that either approach will be "secure enough" and so that shouldn't be the main deciding factor.

sfitts
+1  A: 

The answer actually depends on your specific requirements.

For instance, do you need to protect your web messages or confidentiality is not required and all you need is to authenticate end parties and ensure message integrity? If this is the case - and it often is with web services - HTTPS is probably the wrong hammer.

However - from my experience - do not overlook the complexity of the system you're building. Not only HTTPS is easier to deploy correctly, but an application that relies on the transport layer security is easier to debug (over plain HTTP).

Good luck.

+1  A: 

As you say, REST is good enough for banks so should be good enough for you.

There are two main aspects to security: 1) encryption and 2) identity.

Transmitting in SSL/HTTPS provides encryption over the wire. But you'll also need to make sure that both servers can confirm that they know who they are speaking to. This can be via SSL client certificates, shares secrets, etc.

I'm sure one could make the case that SOAP is "more secure" but probably not in any significant way. The nude motorcyclist analogy is cute but if accurate would imply that the whole internet is insecure.

pbreitenbach