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Is it possible to compile program on one platform and link with other ? What does object file contain ? Can we delink an executable to produce object file ?

+14  A: 

Is it possible to compile program on one platform and link with other ?

In general, no. Object files are compiler specific. Some compilers spit out COFF, others spit out ELF, etc. On top of that, you have to worry calling conventions, system calls, etc. This is platform dependent.

What does object file contain ?

Symbol tables, code, relocation, linking and debugging information.

If what you're after is portability, then write portable C/C++ and let a platform-specific compliant compiler do the work. Even cross compilation has its perils; for example, gcc's cross compilation capabilities are broken from time to time.

Jason
I don't think I'd go so far as to say that cross compilation is perilous. Very few iPhone applications are compiled directly on the iPhone. Or Wii applications. ;-)
Richard Pennington
@Richard, yes, but you use a different compile "mode" to compile Iphone apps that OS X apps. It's being compiled on a different platform, but it's very specifically meant to do just that. :D
CrazyJugglerDrummer
@CrazyJugglerDrummer: My point exactly. Cross-compilation is a very common and safe thing to do.
Richard Pennington
+2  A: 

They are platform dependent. For example file-command prints out following:

$ file foo.o
foo.o: ELF 64-bit LSB relocatable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), not stripped
Ahe
+4  A: 

In practice, no. There are several things that would have to be the same: - OS interface (same system calls) - memory layout of data (endianness, struct padding, etc.) - calling convention - object file format (e.g. ELF is pretty standard on Linux)

Lookup ABI for more information.

abc
+12  A: 

No. In general object file formats might be the same, e.g. ELF, but the contents of the object files will vary from system to system.

An object file contains stuff like:

Object code that implements the desired functionality
A symbol table that can be used to resolve references
Relocation information to allow the linker to locate the object code in memory
Debugging information

The object code is usually not only processor specific, but also OS specific if, for example, it contains system calls.


Edit:

Is it possible to compile program on one platform and link with other ?

Absolutely. If you use a cross-compiler. This compiler specifically targets a platform and generates object files (and programs) that are compatible with the target platform. So you can use an X86 Linux system, for example, to make programs for a powerpc or ARM based system using the appropriate cross compiler. I do it here.

Richard Pennington
+3  A: 

It doesn't need to be said again: C/C++ object files aren't portable.

On the other hand, ANSI C is one of the most portable languages there is. You may not be able to pick up your object files, but recompiling your source is likely to work if you stick to the ANSI C standard. This might also be true of C++ as well.

I don't know how universal GNU C++ is, but if you can compile with gcc on one computer you're good to go on any other machine that also has gcc installed. Just about every machine you can think of has a C compiler. That's portability.

duffymo
Java is even better! :p
abc
Right... compile once, run anywhere... slowly ;-)
Sam Post
Just about every machine you can think of has a Java VM??? Nah...
frunsi
C compiler - not JVM.
duffymo
+3  A: 

No. They are not platform independent. Take for instance, the GNU C Compiler (gcc), that generates ELF binary files. Windows compilers (Borland, Microsoft, Open Watcom) can produce Windows Binary PE (Portable Executable) format. Novell binaries are NLM (Netware Loadabable Module) format.

These examples above of the different outputs which is compiler dependant, there is no way, a linker on a Windows platform, would know anything about ELF format nor NLM format, hence it is impossible to combine different formats to produce an executable that can run on any platform.

Take the Apple's Mac OSX (before the Intel chips were put in), they were running on the PowerPC platform, even if it has the GNU C Compiler, the binary is specifically for the PowerPC platform, if you were to take that binary and copy it onto a Linux platform, it will not run as a result of the differences in the instructions of the platform's microprocessor i.e. PowerPC.

Again, same principle would apply to the OS/390 mainframe system, a GNU C compiler that produces a binary for that platform will not run on an pre-Intel Apple Mac OSX.

Edit: To further clarify what an ELF format would look like see below, this was obtained by running objdump -s main.o under Linux.

main.o:     file format elf32-i386

Contents of section .text:
 0000 8d4c2404 83e4f0ff 71fc5589 e55183ec  .L$.....q.U..Q..
 0010 14894df4 a1000000 00a30000 0000a100  ..M.............
 0020 000000a3 00000000 8b45f483 38010f8e  .........E..8...
 0030 9c000000 8b55f48b 420483c0 048b0083  .....U..B.......
 0040 ec086800 00000050 e8fcffff ff83c410  ..h....P........
 0050 a3000000 00a10000 000085c0 7520a100  ............u ..
 0060 00000050 6a1f6a01 68040000 00e8fcff  ...Pj.j.h.......
 0070 ffff83c4 10c745f8 01000000 eb5a8b45  ......E......Z.E
 0080 f4833802 7e218b55 f48b4204 83c0088b  ..8.~!.U..B.....
 0090 0083ec08 68240000 0050e8fc ffffff83  ....h$...P......
 00a0 c410a300 000000a1 00000000 85c07520  ..............u
 00b0 a1000000 00506a20 6a016828 000000e8  .....Pj j.h(....
 00c0 fcffffff 83c410c7 45f80100 0000eb08  ........E.......
 00d0 e8fcffff ff8945f8 8b45f88b 4dfcc98d  ......E..E..M...
 00e0 61fcc3                               a..
Contents of section .rodata:
 0000 72000000 4552524f 52202d20 63616e6e  r...ERROR - cann
 0010 6f74206f 70656e20 696e7075 74206669  ot open input fi
 0020 6c650a00 77000000 4552524f 52202d20  le..w...ERROR -
 0030 63616e6e 6f74206f 70656e20 6f757470  cannot open outp
 0040 75742066 696c650a 00                 ut file..
Contents of section .comment:
 0000 00474343 3a202847 4e552920 342e322e  .GCC: (GNU) 4.2.
 0010 3400                                 4.

Now compare that to a PE format for a simple DLL

C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0\VC\bin>dumpbin /summary "C:\Documents and Settings\Tom\My Documents\Visual Studio 2008\Projects\SimpleLib\Release\SimpleLib.dll"
Microsoft (R) COFF/PE Dumper Version 9.00.30729.01
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.


Dump of file C:\Documents and Settings\Tom\My Documents\Visual Studio 2008\Projects\SimpleLib\Release\SimpleLib.dll

File Type: DLL

  Summary

        1000 .data
        1000 .rdata
        1000 .reloc
        1000 .rsrc
        1000 .text

Notice the differences in the sections, under ELF, there is .bss, .text, .rodata and .comment, and is an ELF format for i386 processor.

Hope this helps, Best regards, Tom.

tommieb75
+1  A: 

C++ has the additional detail that the names that it puts into an object file are typically 'mangled' to deal type safety for names that are overloaded. The methods used to mangle names are not part of the C++ standard (in fact, name mangling is an implementation detail that's not required at all if the vendor can come up with a different way to implement overloading). So even for the same platform target, you cannot count on being able to link object files from one compiler vendor to another.

There are times when a compiler vendor might change the name mangling scheme from one compiler version to another. For example, I believe there are versions of MSVC for which you can't reliably link C++ object files from an older version to a newer version.

Some platforms have the name mangling specified in an ABI standard for the platform (such as ARM which uses the name mangling specified in the generic C++ ABI that was originally developed for SVr4 on Itanium), but others don't (Windows). Even for the ARM, I'm not sure how interoperable the ABI standard makes linking C++ object files that were created by different compilers.

Michael Burr
MSVC++6 is not really compatible with MSVC++7; not at ABI level and not in name mangling. The latter prevents accidents.
MSalters
+1  A: 

I just wanted to say that as long as they use the same processor architecture and object format, as well as calling convention(usually nowadays, the processor maker creates one), there are many chances for object files to work interchangeably.

However, even in C the compiler makes some assumptions about certain library functions like stack protection(that I know of) being present, which need not be the same on both platforms. in the case that such code is generated, the objects will not be directly compatible.

System calls are not really relevant as long as the systems share them at all as normally they are called through C wrappers in the standard libraries.

In the end this only applies to C and very similar OSes like Linux and the BSDs, but it can happen.

jbcreix