views:

2020

answers:

3

I heard that if you use port 443 (the port usually used for https) for ssh, the encrypted packets look the same to your isp.

Could this be a way to avoid traffic shaping/throttling?

+2  A: 

Your ISP is probably more likely to traffic shape port 443 over 22, seeing as 22 requires more real-time responsiveness.

Not really a programming question though, maybe you'll get a more accurate response somewhere else..

Steve M
+5  A: 

I'm not sure it's true that any given ssh packet "looks" the same as any given https packet.

However, over their lifetime they don't behave the same way. The session set up and tear down don't look alike (SSH offer a plain text banner during initial connect, for one thing). Also, typically wouldn't an https session be short lived? Connect, get your data, disconnect, whereas ssh would connect and persist for long periods of time? I think perhaps using 443 instead of 22 might get past naive filters, but I don't think it would fool someone specifically looking for active attempts to bypass their filters.

Is throttling ssh a common occurrence? I've experienced people blocking it, but I don't think I've experienced throttling. Heck, I usually use ssh tunnels to bypass other blocks since people don't usually care about it.

jj33
+3  A: 

443, when used for HTTPS, relies on SSL (not SSH) for its encryption. SSH looks different than SSL, so it would depend on what your ISP was actually looking for, but it is entirely possible that they could detect the difference. In my experience, though, you'd be more likely to see some personal firewall software block that sort of behavior since it's nonstandard. Fortunately, it's pretty easy to write an SSL tunnel using a SecureSocket of some type.

In general, they can see how much bandwidth you are using, whether or not the traffic is encrypted. They'll still know the endpoints of the connection, how long it's been open, and how many packets have been sent, so if they base their shaping metrics on this sort of data, there's really nothing you can do to prevent them from throttling your connection.

tghw