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Say I have a class, something like the following;

class MyClass
{
public:
  MyClass();
  int a,b,c;
  double x,y,z;
};

#define  PageSize 1000000

MyClass Array1[PageSize],Array2[PageSize];

If my class has not pointers or virtual methods, is it safe to use the following?

memcpy(Array1,Array2,PageSize*sizeof(MyClass));

The reason I ask, is that I'm dealing with very large collections of paged data, as decribed here, where performance is critical, and memcpy offers significant performance advantages over iterative assignment. I suspect it should be ok, as the 'this' pointer is an implicit parameter rather than anything stored, but are there any other hidden nasties I should be aware of?

Edit:

As per sharptooths comments, the data does not include any handles or similar reference information.

As per Paul R's comment, I've profiled the code, and avoiding the copy constructor is about 4.5 times faster in this case. Part of the reason here is that my templated array class is somewhat more complex than the simplistic example given, and calls a placement 'new' when allocating memory for types that don't allow shallow copying. This effectively means that the default constructor is called as well as the copy constructor.

Second edit

It is perhaps worth pointing out that I fully accept that use of memcpy in this way is bad practice and should be avoided in general cases. The specific case in which it is being used is as part of a high performance templated array class, which includes a parameter 'AllowShallowCopying', which will invoke memcpy rather than a copy constructor. This has big performance implications for operations such as removing an element near the start of an array, and paging data in and out of secondary storage. The better theoretical solution would be to convert the class to a simple structure, but given this involves a lot of refactoring of a large code base, avoiding it is not something I'm keen to do.

+7  A: 

You could. But first ask yourself:

Why not just use the copy-constructor that is provided by your compiler to do a member-wise copy?

Are you having specific performance problems for which you need to optimise?

The current implementation contains all POD-types: what happens when somebody changes it?

Johnsyweb
If you have a large array of such structures, it can be faster to use memcpy, which many compilers implement using efficient native instructions (ie, SIMD copies of whole vectors; cache operations to move entire lines at once, etc).
Crashworks
The copy constructor provided by your compiler does not do bitwise copy.
anon
@Johnsyweb, as per my edits, profiling has shown this to be much slower in the case I'm dealing with.
Shane MacLaughlin
Updated my answer accordingly.
Johnsyweb
@Neil: According to Lippman, if the class has no explicit copy ctor and the class exhibits bitwise copy semantics (as in PODs), then the compiler very well may not synthesize a copy ctor and do bitwise copy instead. This is apparently backed up in the ARM, but I haven't looked it up yet.
John Dibling
@John Neither Lippman (which bok?) nor the ARM(come on - way past obsolete!) are standards.
anon
@Neil: I know, but see my post. The Lippman book I'm referring to is "Inside the C++ Object Model"
John Dibling
A: 

It will work, because a (POD-) class is the same as a struct (not completely, default access ...), in C++. And you may copy a POD struct with memcpy.

The definition of POD was no virtual functions, no constructor, deconstructor no virtual inheritance ... etc.

Christopher
As you point out, if the class has a constructor, it isn't POD. And his class has a constructor.
anon
+2  A: 

You could use memcpy for copying array of POD types. And it will be a good idea to add static assert for boost::is_pod is true. You class is not a POD type now.

Arithmetic types, enumeration types, pointer types, and pointer to member types are POD.

A cv-qualified version of a POD type is itself a POD type.

An array of POD is itself POD. A struct or union, all of whose non-static data members are POD, is itself POD if it has:

  • No user-declared constructors.
  • No private or protected non-static data members.
  • No base classes.
  • No virtual functions.
  • No non-static data members of reference type.
  • No user-defined copy assignment operator.
  • No user-defined destructor.
Kirill V. Lyadvinsky
His class isn't POD.
anon
@Neil, I'm aware about it. I've edited my answer so to remove possible misreading.
Kirill V. Lyadvinsky
If TR1 is available, he can use std::tr1::has_trivial_copy etc.
Derek Ledbetter
+4  A: 

Your class has a constructor, and so is not POD in the sense that a C struct is. It is therefore not safe to copy it with memcpy(). If you want POD data, remove the constructor. If you want non-POD data, where controlled construction is essential, don't use memcpy() - you can't have both.

anon
Thanks as always for the reply Neil. Can you point me to some references that back this up. I split my class into a POD class, and the derive from it if necessary, I just can't figure out why it would be necessary.
Shane MacLaughlin
A: 

Calling memcpy on non-POD classes is undefined behaviour. I suggest to follow Kirill's tip for assertion. Using memcpy can be faster, but if the copy operation is not performance critical in your code then just use bitwise copy.

zoli2k
+2  A: 

When talking about the case you're referring to I suggest you declare struct's instead of class'es. It makes it a lot easier to read (and less debatable :) ) and the default access specifier is public.

Of course you can use memcpy in this case, but beware that adding other kinds of elements in the struct (like C++ classes) is not recommended (due to obvious reasons - you don't know how memcpy will influence them).

Iulian Şerbănoiu
Yup, I'm thinking of converting my class to a struct, which I then either embed in another class, or derive from.
Shane MacLaughlin
+5  A: 

Let me give you an empirical answer: in our realtime app, we do this all the time, and it works just fine. This is the case in MSVC for Wintel and PowerPC and GCC for Linux and Mac, even for classes that have constructors.

I can't quote chapter and verse of the C++ standard for this, just experimental evidence.

Crashworks
Accepting this answer until I see some hard reference material to the contrary. Yes, it is bad general practice and could lead to potential future maintenance issues, but in this specific case performance requirements are paramount.
Shane MacLaughlin
If you know for sure exactly which compiler will be used and exactly which hardware you'll run on, generality can be less of a concern.
Crashworks
I love it when people accept answers that tell them exactly what they want to hear.
anon
@Neil, the question was asked to see if there were good reasons why memcpy wouldn't work. The other answers didn't provide that, they simply gave good reasons as to why it was a bad idea, which I fully accept. Performance isn't a wooly requirement in this case, it is of primary importance.
Shane MacLaughlin
Agree with Neil, but in this specific case I do believe doing a `memcpy` is technically safe. That said, it is also a bad bad bad programming practice that should virtually never be done.
John Dibling
+4  A: 

According to the Standard, if no copy constructor is provided by the programmer for a class, the compiler will synthesize a constructor which exhibits default memberwise initialization. (12.8.8) However, in 12.8.1, the Standard also says,

A class object can be copied in two ways, by initialization (12.1, 8.5), including for function argument passing (5.2.2) and for function value return (6.6.3), and by assignment (5.17). Conceptually, these two operations are implemented by a copy constructor (12.1) and copy assignment operator (13.5.3).

The operative word here is "conceptually," which, according to Lippman gives compiler designers an 'out' to actually doing memberwise initialization in "trivial" (12.8.6) implicitly defined copy constructors.

In practice, then, compilers have to synthesize copy constructors for these classes that exhibit behavior as if they were doing memberwise initialization. But if the class exhibits "Bitwise Copy Semantics" (Lippman, p. 43) then the compiler does not have to synthesize a copy constructor (which would result in a function call, possibly inlined) and do bitwise copy instead. This claim is apparently backed up in the ARM, but I haven't looked this up yet.

Using a compiler to validate that something is Standard-compliant is always a bad idea, but compiling your code and viewing the resulting assembly seems to verify that the compiler is not doing memberwise initialization in a synthesized copy constructor, but doing a memcpy instead:

#include <cstdlib>

class MyClass
{
public:
    MyClass(){};
  int a,b,c;
  double x,y,z;
};

int main()
{
    MyClass c;
    MyClass d = c;

    return 0;
}

The assembly generated for MyClass d = c; is:

000000013F441048  lea         rdi,[d] 
000000013F44104D  lea         rsi,[c] 
000000013F441052  mov         ecx,28h 
000000013F441057  rep movs    byte ptr [rdi],byte ptr [rsi] 

...where 28h is the sizeof(MyClass).

This was compiled under MSVC9 in Debug mode.

EDIT:

The long and the short of this post is that:

1) So long as doing a bitwise copy will exhibit the same side effects as memberwise copy would, the Standard allows trivial implicit copy constructors to do a memcpy instead of memberwise copies.

2) Some compilers actually do memcpys instead of synthesizing a trivial copy constructor which does memberwise copies.

John Dibling
Interesting stuff. So I'm guessing even with this in place, the performance gain comes from a single 'rep movs' for the entire array as opposed to the above code in a loop. I wonder what the assembler output from other compilers would look like. It seems like a pretty obvious optimization.
Shane MacLaughlin
+3  A: 

[...] but are there any other hidden nasties I should be aware of?

Yes: your code makes certain assumptions that are neither suggested nor documented (unless you specifically document them). This is a nightmare for maintenance.

Also, your implementation is basically hacking (if it's necessary it's not a bad thing) and it may depend (not sure on this) on how your current compiler implements things.

This means that if you upgrade compiler / toolchain one year (or five) from now (or just change optimization settings in your current compiler) nobody will remember this hack (unless you make a big effort to keep it visible) and you may end up with undefined behavior on your hands, and developers cursing "whoever did this" a few years down the road.

It's not that the decision is unsound, it's that it is (or will be) unexpected to maintainers.

To minimize this (unexpectedness?) I would move the class into a structure within a namespace based on the current name of the class, with no internal functions in the structure at all. Then you are making it clear you're looking at a memory block and treating it as a memory block.

Instead of:

class MyClass
{
public:
    MyClass();
    int a,b,c;
    double x,y,z;
};

#define  PageSize 1000000

MyClass Array1[PageSize],Array2[PageSize];

memcpy(Array1,Array2,PageSize*sizeof(MyClass));

You should have:

namespace MyClass // obviously not a class, 
                  // name should be changed to something meaningfull
{
    struct Data
    {
        int a,b,c;
        double x,y,z;
    };

    static const size_t PageSize = 1000000; // use static const instead of #define


    void Copy(Data* a1, Data* a2, const size_t count)
    {
        memcpy( a1, a2, count * sizeof(MyClass) );
    }

    // any other operations that you'd have declared within 
    // MyClass should be put here
}

MyClass::Data Array1[MyClass::PageSize],Array2[MyClass::PageSize];
MyClass::Copy( Array1, Array2, MyClass::PageSize );

This way you:

  • make it clear that MyClass::Data is a POD structure, not a class (binary they will be the same or very close - the same if I remember correctly) but this way it is also visible to programmers reading the code.

  • centralize the usage of memcpy (if you have to change to a std::copy or something else) in two years you do it in a single point.

  • keep the usage of memcpy near the implementation of the POD structure.

utnapistim
In terms of maintenance, my existing array implementation already includes a flag to enable or disable shallow copying. From a maintenance point of view, if there ever comes a time for what ever reason that the memcpy optimization is no longer viable, it is simply a matter of turning it off.
Shane MacLaughlin
A: 

I will notice that you admit there is an issue here. And you are aware of the potential drawbacks.

My question is one of maintenance. Do you feel confident that nobody will ever include a field in this class that would botch up your great optimization ? I don't, I'm an engineer not a prophet.

So instead of trying to improve the copy operation.... why not try to avoid it altogether ?

Would it be possible to change the data structure used for storage to stop moving elements around... or at least not that much.

For example, do you know of blist (the Python module). B+Tree can allow index access with performances quite similar to vectors (a bit slower, admittedly) for example, while minimizing the number of elements to shuffle around when inserting / removing.

Instead of going in the quick and dirty, perhaps should you focus on finding a better collection ?

Matthieu M.